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Old 08-14-2011, 12:17 AM
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Spiritual Warfare

This a subject God has dealt with me a great deal about lately. God is beginning to open my eyes to issues that are spiritual in nature. I'm very interested in learning more about the spiritual resistance that today's Apostolic church faces, especially within the US. Does anyone know of any good Apostolic messages or Bible studies on this? I'm trying to steer clear of any finatical stuff. Just some good solid teaching on overcoming and defeating the forces of darkness.
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Old 08-14-2011, 12:42 AM
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Your question contains a big part of the issue faced by all kinds of churches as I see it. (Not a criticism bro, but an observation regarding a popular thought pattern.)

First I'll ask...

Is it possible to discuss "spiritual warfare" without being a bit fanatical?

I'd also like to point out that few Christians actually know who they are in Christ from a biblical perspective. As a result, spiritual warfare becomes screaming in tongues and flailing "magic hair" at a Satanic force who knows who we are in Christ...while we don't.

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Old 08-14-2011, 04:36 AM
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Re: Spiritual Warfare

I think its pretty simple

Spiritual Objectives: The souls of men and women.

Luke10: 10For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.


Spiritual Battlefield: the Mind

2 Cor 10:
4(For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds)

5Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

6And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.


Spiritual weapons: The armour of God

Ephesians 6
11Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

13Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

14Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

15And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

16Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

17And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

18Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;

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17Then Jesus answered and said, O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bring him hither to me.

18And Jesus rebuked the devil; and he departed out of him: and the child was cured from that very hour.

19Then came the disciples to Jesus apart, and said, Why could not we cast him out?

20And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.

21Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.
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Re: Spiritual Warfare

Aquila asks:
"Is it possible to discuss "spiritual warfare" without being a bit fanatical?"



this is a very unenlightened statement. Spiritual Warfare is the reason the church is on the earth.
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Your question contains a big part of the issue faced by all kinds of churches as I see it. (Not a criticism bro, but an observation regarding a popular thought pattern.)

First I'll ask...

Is it possible to discuss "spiritual warfare" without being a bit fanatical?

I'd also like to point out that few Christians actually know who they are in Christ from a biblical perspective. As a result, spiritual warfare becomes screaming in tongues and flailing "magic hair" at a Satanic force who knows who we are in Christ...while we don't.
Your stereotyping is unfair. It's akin to saying all muslins are terrorists. there may be some wild fire, but that doesn't negate the real power of God.
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http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Works...3317826&sr=8-2

http://www.amazon.com/Gods-Chose-Fas...3317872&sr=1-1
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Let me explain a bit further what i am looking for. I want to understand some of the dynamics of how the enemy seeks to afflict and hinder a church body. I would also like to gain a greater understanding of the weapons we have been given to counteract those attacks. Also to gain an understanding on how to deal with certain strongholds in communities. When i say i am trying to avoid anything finatical, i suppose i am talking more about personalities. I know of men who focus so much on demons that they see one behind every issue. I also know of ppl who have gone off the deep end with spiritual gifts and administrations to the point that they demand the respect and acknowledgement of others instead of just seeking to serve the body of Christ with their giftings. I just would like to find some good solid teaching on overcoming and breaking through spiritual darkness that resists the church and it's mission. As i once heard Brother Johnny King say "Before there is a harvest, there must be a battle."
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Well, the visiting minister at our church tonight split his time in addressing Satan and addressing God about equally. Also a lot of praying in tongues - I don't know whether those were addressed to Satan or God, or both though.

I am sure many thought that was heavy spiritual warfare... me personally? I did not get it.
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Aquila asks:
"Is it possible to discuss "spiritual warfare" without being a bit fanatical?"

this is a very unenlightened statement. Spiritual Warfare is the reason the church is on the earth.
My point is that any discussions on spiritual warfare will seem fanatical. But it must be understood, because it's real. Why the contrary spirit?

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This a subject God has dealt with me a great deal about lately. God is beginning to open my eyes to issues that are spiritual in nature. I'm very interested in learning more about the spiritual resistance that today's Apostolic church faces, especially within the US. Does anyone know of any good Apostolic messages or Bible studies on this? I'm trying to steer clear of any finatical stuff. Just some good solid teaching on overcoming and defeating the forces of darkness.
Chip Ingram did an EXCELLENT SERIES on this very subject.

However, he's not Apostolic.
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