Christians and Secular Music

[TGBTG]

Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins

I don't approve??? That's a strange way to approve it... who cares if I approve or not... I don't have the final say over anything, all of what's right and wrong is determined by the Word of God.

I would think that if you read through the thread it would be pretty obvious, I believe music was originality intended to be used as only an instrument of worship/glorification of God, and that to use it otherwise is to bastardize music from it's original use.

Ha...okay...each man to his own...lol

Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins

Therefore, I do not sing Happy Birthday to anyone, except on Christmas.. and then I sing it to Jesus.

So during xmas celebration, you won't sing
"We wish you a merry christmas
We wish you a merry christmas
We wish you a merry christmas
And a Happy New Year"

Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins

Regarding the National Anthem, I do not sing or play it, but I will stand in respect and will place my hand over my heart out of respect of my nation. I will sing God Bless America... and will play it.

The other songs... nope, won't play or sing them out of my conviction.

If you're gonna stand and place your hand over your heart while the anthem is being sung, you are PARTICIPATING in the song. You might as well be singing it.

[Bro. Robbins]

Originally Posted by TGBTG

Ha...okay...each man to his own...lol


So during xmas celebration, you won't sing
"We wish you a merry christmas
We wish you a merry christmas
We wish you a merry christmas
And a Happy New Year"


If you're gonna stand and place your hand over your heart while the anthem is being sung, you are PARTICIPATING in the song. You might as well be singing it.

Nope.. won't sing the wish you a merry Christmas song.

Brother, in your opinion I'm participating in the song. The song is never, or at least never in my presence that I've seen, played unless there is an American flag present. The standing and placing my hand on my heart is respecting the flag, has nothing to do with the song, because during that song, you're supposed to face the flag.

Also dear brother, the Bible is to be rightly divided... to take it ALL in balance of one another. Therefore, the admonitions and doctrines should be taken in congruence of one another to present the overall picture the Word is trying to present.

Yes, I will not participate in the music portion. However, we are to also live peaceably with all men, give honor to whom honor is due, and not present an offence to others when possible. My standing with my hand on my heart is toward the flag, this nation, and even more out of respect to those that have given their lives for the freedom which I enjoy.

If the song weren't played/sung in the presence of our nation's flag (which by the way is considered inappropriate use of the song and the flag) and I stood and held my hand over my heart, it would indeed be me participating in the song. However, in the accurate context, I'm not. Really need to refer back to your Civics class brother about all those proper procedures.

[TGBTG]

Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins

Nope.. won't sing the wish you a merry Christmas song.

By the way, do you realize xmas is totally secular? The WORD does not say to celebrate Jesus' birthday and yet you do it...just sayin'

And oh, you said you sing happy Birthday to Jesus? what song do you sing?

Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins

Brother, in your opinion I'm participating in the song. The song is never, or at least never in my presence that I've seen, played unless there is an American flag present. The standing and placing my hand on my heart is respecting the flag, has nothing to do with the song, because during that song, you're supposed to face the flag.

Also dear brother, the Bible is to be rightly divided... to take it ALL in balance of one another. Therefore, the admonitions and doctrines should be taken in congruence of one another to present the overall picture the Word is trying to present.

Yes, I will not participate in the music portion. However, we are to also live peaceably with all men, give honor to whom honor is due, and not present an offence to others when possible. My standing with my hand on my heart is toward the flag, this nation, and even more out of respect to those that have given their lives for the freedom which I enjoy.

If the song weren't played/sung in the presence of our nation's flag (which by the way is considered inappropriate use of the song and the flag) and I stood and held my hand over my heart, it would indeed be me participating in the song. However, in the accurate context, I'm not. Really need to refer back to your Civics class brother about all those proper procedures.

Dude, you are taking this way too serious...lol

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by TGBTG

If you're gonna stand and place your hand over your heart while the anthem is being sung, you are PARTICIPATING in the song. You might as well be singing it.

Pinch of incense, without singing the hymn to Caesar.

[Bro. Robbins]

Originally Posted by TGBTG

By the way, do you realize xmas is totally secular? The WORD does not say to celebrate Jesus' birthday and yet you do it...just sayin'

And oh, you said you sing happy Birthday to Jesus? what song do you sing?


Dude, you are taking this way too serious...lol

Christmas is secular... sure, I know that. But, the Bible also says to give honor to whom honor is due. To have a church calendar, where once a year we remember the birth of Christ is wise and smart... one can do that anytime they want... just makes more sense to do it in December when the rest of the culture around us does. I don't give gifts, don't do the tree, don't do the lights, don't do Satan Claus or any of that stuff. I don't lamblast those that do, just not my cup of tea.

I use the happy birthday song when singing to Jesus. Because it's to Jesus, it makes the song in that instance sacred and not secular.... I would think you could see that without me pointing that out. Also as discussed earlier in this thread, there are many components that determine if music is secular or sacred, one major one being the content of the song.

Did you actual call someone older than you "dude"? Seriously? You weren't raised that a comment like that is disrespectful?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins

Did you actual call someone older than you "dude"? Seriously? You weren't raised that a comment like that is disrespectful?

He should have said 'Dude, sir'???

[TGBTG]

Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins

Christmas is secular... sure, I know that.

ding ding ding!!!

Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins

But, the Bible also says to give honor to whom honor is due. To have a church calendar, where once a year we remember the birth of Christ is wise and smart... one can do that anytime they want... just makes more sense to do it in December when the rest of the culture around us does. I don't give gifts, don't do the tree, don't do the lights, don't do Satan Claus or any of that stuff. I don't lamblast those that do, just not my cup of tea.

I use the happy birthday song when singing to Jesus. Because it's to Jesus, it makes the song in that instance sacred and not secular.... I would think you could see that without me pointing that out. Also as discussed earlier in this thread, there are many components that determine if music is secular or sacred, one major one being the content of the song.

IYO

Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins

Did you actual call someone older than you "dude"? Seriously? You weren't raised that a comment like that is disrespectful?

You are assuming I know your age...lol

Hey Bro R, I am just having light hearted humor in here, so I hope I'm not offending you 'cause you seem to be serious about this. If you feel this way about "secular" music, that's cool. Each man to his own...

You made a poll thus asking for opinions, which I know you realize will not always be in agreement with yours...

[TGBTG]

Originally Posted by Esaias

He should have said 'Dude, sir'???

lol

[kerry]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Contemporary Christian and your Hillsong-style praise & worship bore me to TEARS. I'd rather listen to my husband's bluegrass station nonstop than our local Christian radio station.

[Praxeas]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-q7Mih69KE