Scoffers on AFF

[thephnxman]

Originally Posted by shazeep

ha well my theory is currently that those seeking God naturally go and look for other people who claim to have answers, and those people feel compelled to have answers for the people who come looking for them. As good a place to start as any, i guess.

Your "theory" is not that far off.

However, people don't go looking for God of their own volition, except they are
called of God to repent! I am speaking regarding the God of Abraham, Isaac, and
Jacob. In most cases, people that "find" God do so by hearing the preaching of the
gospel; others, stay "lost" because they heard a word that led them astray. They
are subsequently led to a false sense of righteousness or a false sense of salvation.
I believe each one of us fit into one of those categories.

Those who have not heard the calling of the Lord, strive with those who obey!

[TJJJ]

Originally Posted by Sean

Tjjj, Loren etc....

I am not prophecying here. (Just observing)

A cashless society is the ONLY way that this could be fulfilled in the future....


Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

A cashless society eliminates ANYONE that tries to buy or sell without permission from the system.

Can you think of another way to control buying or selling?

To say it is the ONLY way that the prophecy can be fulfilled just reveals your ignorance of the plans of God.

The Jews of Jesus' day rejected the Lord because they believed that the ONLY way that Jesus could be the redeemer is if he was a physical king. When He revealed another way then they rejected Him and His Kingdom.

God has His way, even if you don't understand it.

In Isaiah 55 look.

Isa 55:1 Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.

You want a cashless society? Here it is!!!

But wait! This is speaking of the CHURCH!!!! God supplies all within the church, without cash and without money!!!

CASHLESS SOCIETY!!!


Oh no!! Whatever will I do now that my Hollywood fantasy has been destroyed?

[shazeep]

"i need money to survive" is the biggest lie ever told, imo.

Originally Posted by thephnxman

Your "theory" is not that far off.

However, people don't go looking for God of their own volition, except they are
called of God to repent! I am speaking regarding the God of Abraham, Isaac, and
Jacob. In most cases, people that "find" God do so by hearing the preaching of the
gospel; others, stay "lost" because they heard a word that led them astray. They
are subsequently led to a false sense of righteousness or a false sense of salvation.
I believe each one of us fit into one of those categories.

Those who have not heard the calling of the Lord, strive with those who obey!

hmm, i wonder if each of us might not fit in to more than one of those at a time--your last statement can certainly become self-serving. While i more or less agree with the analysis, i see this leading to a false sense of salvation, wherein those that have heard the gospel, and, say, respond to Acts 2:38, and do the works required by their church to be considered saved, then consider themselves immune from a false sense of righteousness or even salvation. We are led to assume we have arrived, and so stop searching for a deeper knowledge, instead becoming Bible lawyers; when the early Church did not even have Acts 2:38, but only Grace.

i wouldn't say that this is universal, but certainly prevalent.

[Godsdrummer]

Originally Posted by Sean

Tjjj, Loren etc....

I am not prophecying here. (Just observing)

A cashless society is the ONLY way that this could be fulfilled in the future....


Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

A cashless society eliminates ANYONE that tries to buy or sell without permission from the system.

Can you think of another way to control buying or selling?

Sean there is so much wrong with you thinking it is ridiculous, I for one hardly ever use cash, yet I buy and sell every day of the week.
A computer chip is no different than the debit card or charge care I carry in my wallet and use every day to purchase goods.
As has been said a mark is something visible on someones body by the very definition of "mark". IF this passage in Rev. is speaking of a literal mark, (as you know I don't) it would not matter is the system was cashless or not, you would have to have a literal tattoo that was visible on you right hand or forehead for this passage to be fulfilled.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Godsdrummer

Sean there is so much wrong with you thinking it is ridiculous, I for one hardly ever use cash, yet I buy and sell every day of the week.
A computer chip is no different than the debit card or charge care I carry in my wallet and use every day to purchase goods.
As has been said a mark is something visible on someones body by the very definition of "mark". IF this passage in Rev. is speaking of a literal mark, (as you know I don't) it would not matter is the system was cashless or not, you would have to have a literal tattoo that was visible on you right hand or forehead for this passage to be fulfilled.

Looks like you bought into the system hook,line and sinker Loren. It will be very easy for you to take the mark(whatever it is)

[Sean]

Originally Posted by TJJJ

To say it is the ONLY way that the prophecy can be fulfilled just reveals your ignorance of the plans of God.

The Jews of Jesus' day rejected the Lord because they believed that the ONLY way that Jesus could be the redeemer is if he was a physical king. When He revealed another way then they rejected Him and His Kingdom.

God has His way, even if you don't understand it.

In Isaiah 55 look.

Isa 55:1 Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.

You want a cashless society? Here it is!!!

But wait! This is speaking of the CHURCH!!!! God supplies all within the church, without cash and without money!!!

CASHLESS SOCIETY!!!


Oh no!! Whatever will I do now that my Hollywood fantasy has been destroyed?

Thanks for NOT answering my question bro.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Sean

Tjjj, Loren etc....

I am not prophecying here. (Just observing)

A cashless society is the ONLY way that this could be fulfilled in the future....


Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

A cashless society eliminates ANYONE that tries to buy or sell without permission from the system.

Can you think of another way to control buying or selling?

Again

[Godsdrummer]

Originally Posted by Sean

Looks like you bought into the system hook,line and sinker Loren. It will be very easy for you to take the mark(whatever it is)

You don't even know what the system is Sean, you showed that when you said the only way for this to come to pass is with a cashless society.

[Sean]

No, not exactly, but for the first time in the history of planet earth, the capability to remove cash and replace it with a "monitored" system of buying and selling is upon mankind.

Dont you see the storm coming at all?

[Sean]

At all?....



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