Scoffers on AFF - Page 38

Evang.Benincasa · #**371** 10-02-2015, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean

Nor did they in O.T. times....LOL

Again, we all see that Sean refuses to answer questions concerning my post.
Jesus said that until heaven and earth shall pass away, not even one iota, or one point, shall pass away from the law, until everything should happen. This Sean didn't even attempt to answer but refutes Jesus' words by saying that no Israeli or Judean ever KEPT THE LAW? Here we see the Eschatological Wizard of AFF, present his case by posting that NO ONE KEPT THE LAW in the O.T.? Sean is a Bible teacher?

I guess the Psalmist didn't check with Google or Sean when he penned these words found in Psalm 119:1? You see Sean was too busy wanting to get in the pulpit while he was in church so Bible reading and study were the least on his to do list. Psalm 78:10 is speaking of those who rejected God's law, and were hypocrites. There were always two groups the righteous and the remnant. Yet, Sean wouldn't know that because Search for Truth doesn't explain that. Psalm 101:6, again speaking of the remnant, who followed the Lord. How on earth could Jesus mention every jot and tittle not passing away if every jot and tittle weren't even being kept even by Himself? Right? Because NO ONE WAS ABLE TO KEEP IT? God sets up a system which no one could keep even if they desired to follow God with all their hearts Psalm 119:80?

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Originally Posted by Sean

It was never perfectly done right.

So, Paul the Apostle never checked with Google and Sean to be able to make this statement in Philippians 3:6 Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless. In Luke 1:6 both the parents of the Baptist were found blameless concerning the Law, Zechariah and Elizabeth were righteous in God's eyes, careful to obey all of the Lord's commandments and regulations.

Still Jesus said that until heaven and earth pass away, not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Gone, no one being able to practice any part of the law because it was all accomplished. You see Sean, the only thing you even vaguely know was told you over a pulpit in a Pentecostal church. You never went outside the boundaries of your Search for Truth Bible study, until the advent of Internet allowed you to get really tangled up.

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Originally Posted by Sean

However, It is still there to show men that they are failures.

Galatians 3:19 doesn't say that, what the apostle does say is that the Law was added because of transgressions. The Law was the guardian schoolmaster to lead them to Christ, Galatians 3:24.

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Originally Posted by Sean

Oh, thats right...preterists think the Law is melted with fervent heat and there is nothing left to condemn sinners....LOLOLOL

Again, readers notice how Sean never once touch top side or bottom of Brother Blume's questions concerning the "perishing world" quoted by Peter?
What did perish? Did the planet earth perish like Sean keeps pounding? But why didn't Sean just post the answer? What perished? Did the earth, world, planet, perish? What is the WORLD Sean? What WORLD perished?

Evang.Benincasa · #**372** 10-02-2015, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Godsdrummer

Mat_11:13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.

Mat_7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

Mat 22:35 Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,
Mat 22:36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.
Mat 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Mat 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Luk_16:16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.

The law OT and prophets pointed to one time in history, and that was the time of Christ, not some future happening in our time.
Ether press into the kingdom of God today or be lost.

Amen, because everything was still in place when Jesus was walking the shores of Galilee. Jerusalem, still had an active priest group, animal sacrifices, all was still being practiced. Jerusalem still had the temple which was originally constructed by Ezra and Nehemiah, a group of diaspora Judeans who can trace their lineage back to Adam, priests who could trace their lineage back to Aaron, and Zadok.

Sean · #**373** 10-02-2015, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Godsdrummer

Mat_11:13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.

Mat_7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

Mat 22:35 Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,
Mat 22:36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.
Mat 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Mat 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Luk_16:16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.

The law OT and prophets pointed to one time in history, and that was the time of Christ, not some future happening in our time.
Ether press into the kingdom of God today or be lost.

Loren, do you think the Law/ Jews/Their Religion melted away with fervent heat?

Sean · #**374** 10-02-2015, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Again, we all see that Sean refuses to answer questions concerning my post.
Jesus said that until heaven and earth shall pass away, not even one iota, or one point, shall pass away from the law, until everything should happen. This Sean didn't even attempt to answer but refutes Jesus' words by saying that no Israeli or Judean ever KEPT THE LAW? Here we see the Eschatological Wizard of AFF, present his case by posting that NO ONE KEPT THE LAW in the O.T.? Sean is a Bible teacher?

I guess the Psalmist didn't check with Google or Sean when he penned these words found in Psalm 119:1? You see Sean was too busy wanting to get in the pulpit while he was in church so Bible reading and study were the least on his to do list. Psalm 78:10 is speaking of those who rejected God's law, and were hypocrites. There were always two groups the righteous and the remnant. Yet, Sean wouldn't know that because Search for Truth doesn't explain that. Psalm 101:6, again speaking of the remnant, who followed the Lord. How on earth could Jesus mention every jot and tittle not passing away if every jot and tittle weren't even being kept even by Himself? Right? Because NO ONE WAS ABLE TO KEEP IT? God sets up a system which no one could keep even if they desired to follow God with all their hearts Psalm 119:80?

So, Paul the Apostle never checked with Google and Sean to be able to make this statement in Philippians 3:6 Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless. In Luke 1:6 both the parents of the Baptist were found blameless concerning the Law, Zechariah and Elizabeth were righteous in God's eyes, careful to obey all of the Lord's commandments and regulations.

Still Jesus said that until heaven and earth pass away, not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Gone, no one being able to practice any part of the law because it was all accomplished. You see Sean, the only thing you even vaguely know was told you over a pulpit in a Pentecostal church. You never went outside the boundaries of your Search for Truth Bible study, until the advent of Internet allowed you to get really tangled up.

Galatians 3:19 doesn't say that, what the apostle does say is that the Law was added because of transgressions. The Law was the guardian schoolmaster to lead them to Christ, Galatians 3:24.

Again, readers notice how Sean never once touch top side or bottom of Brother Blume's questions concerning the "perishing world" quoted by Peter?
What did perish? Did the planet earth perish like Sean keeps pounding? But why didn't Sean just post the answer? What perished? Did the earth, world, planet, perish? What is the WORLD Sean? What WORLD perished?

Hey fella....everything IS accomplished!.....For the believer ONLY!

You think that Jesus died to end the very Law that was made to condemn unbelievers!

You think that unbelievers are not under any standards of condemnation now?

Only BELIEVERS are not under these standards of condemnation!

Are you okay?.....LOL

Sean · #**375** 10-02-2015, 03:38 PM

I wonder if Benencasa tells sinners the Law is irrelevant to them?

LOL

Sean · #**376** 10-02-2015, 03:41 PM

An intelligent teacher uses the active O.T. Law to bring sinners under the condemnation of it, to cause them to repent.

Then when the sinner is born again, they are to be told the Law is not their judge anymore, neither are they under it anymore.

Learn the Apostles teaching method Benencasa, okay?

Sean · #**377** 10-02-2015, 03:48 PM

Again, readers notice how Sean never once touch top side or bottom of Brother Blume's questions concerning the "perishing world" quoted by Peter?
What did perish? Did the planet earth perish like Sean keeps pounding? But why didn't Sean just post the answer? What perished? Did the earth, world, planet, perish? What is the WORLD Sean? What WORLD perished?

I dont know...LOL

Now lets see you NOT answer my question for the umpteenth time Benencasa....LOL....................

Sean · #**378** 10-02-2015, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by Sean View Post
I got a funny feeling that Peter was not talking about the Jews here....LOL

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,

12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

The Jews, their religion and their places of worship burning up with fervent heat?.....NOT!

LOL

Benencasa says that Peter said..."God will burn them Jews, their religion and their Law"....LOLOL!

Sean · #**379** 10-02-2015, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by Sean View Post
Has any one noticed that Benencasa is terrified to post his belief of this passage....

10 but the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

11 seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,

12 looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

Because Benencasa will be run out of town when he tells us what he really thinks it is saying as follows....

10 but the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the temple shall pass away with a great noise, and the Jewish religion shall melt with fervent heat, the Jews also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

11 seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,

12 looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the temple being on fire shall be dissolved, and the Jewish religion shall melt with fervent heat?

The reason Benencasa wont post his beliefs as described above, is like I have been saying...he is very embarrassed to be laughed at.

Sean · #**380** 10-02-2015, 04:01 PM

Can you believe Benencasa thinks Peter was saying this....

Earth= Jews

Heaven= Law

Elements= Jewish religion

Can anyone help him with his meds please?....LOL