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View Poll Results: Could an AOG saint theoretically be saved?
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Yes, they've obeyed the Acts 2:38 message.
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No, they are trinitarian AOG! Duh!
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Maybe, I'm not exactly sure.
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06-15-2007, 01:15 PM
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Hello AFF!
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Amarillo, Tx.
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So if some-one believes Acts2;38, obeys gets baptized in Jesus name, filled with
Holy ghost, but still thinks in a trinitarian mode he is going to hell???
This very thing happened to me after I was in the UPC.......
It took a while to get the revelation of One God.......
So Bill........was I in sin and hell bound until I understood One God?????
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06-15-2007, 01:19 PM
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Unvaxxed Pureblood too
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Join Date: May 2007
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Originally Posted by Lost
Does the AOG saint know that he's in a church that doesn't have a correct understanding of God? Why would he go in search of an Apostolic preacher if he's already obeyed Acts 2:38 and believes that he's in a "heaven bound" church already? |
Why does anyone after they come into a religion ever continue you forward?
The Trinitarian goes further because he was seeking through the word. I would guess we are talking about an individual who just didn't trip and fall into his understanding but came to it through study and prayer. If he or she is hungry for the truth they will find the truth.
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Originally Posted by Lost
Would God still judge his ignorance of the Oneness, in spite of his obedience to the Word via Acts 2:38? |
The scripture speaks of those who will have the Spirit of truth would be guided into all truth. Those who made up the early Pentecostal movement in America came out of Denominations, and they became seekers. Denomination was formed that became the United Pentecostal Church International.
Now we still have people who are continuing to go forward unto truth.
In Jesus Name
Brother Benincasa
www.OnTimeJournal.com
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06-15-2007, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by COOPER
So if some-one believes Acts2;38, obeys gets baptized in Jesus name, filled with
Holy ghost, but still thinks in a trinitarian mode he is going to hell???
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No, he is born again according to the scriptures.
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06-15-2007, 01:33 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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Originally Posted by chaotic_resolve
What of people down through history and still today who received the revelation of one God and Acts 2:38, but didn't know of or attend an Apostolic church? |
Bump for Evang.Benincasa.
There are many people who have experienced Acts 2:38 who've never heard of the Apostolics. Are they splitting hell wide open?
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06-15-2007, 02:11 PM
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what a mess
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06-15-2007, 02:41 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Originally Posted by WordPreacher
If they are baptized in Jesus name and filled with the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues, then they are born again according to the scriptures.
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But NOT according to Evang. Benincasa in this thread.
In his rationale- we are all lost.
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06-15-2007, 02:50 PM
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Honorary Admin
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Sandusky, Ohio
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These folks will be saved NOT because they are able to check off all the boxes of the 3-Step plan, but because they have repented and turned their lives over to Jesus Christ. That is the most important thing anyone can do. God can and will lead folks into all truth. All the truth He deems they need. He may NOT lead them into a oneness understanding of the godhead. It is God's responsibility to lead people and give them a revelation of what He wants them to know.
There is no way we can just "work hard" enough for the revelation. It is God who draws, not man who enlightens. It is God who saves, not man who delivers.
These folks are as saved as a newborn babe and I rejoice in their salvation!!! 
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Last edited by ManOfWord; 06-15-2007 at 03:21 PM.
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06-15-2007, 02:55 PM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Nunya bidness
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Originally Posted by Thumper
Can a cow stand on its hind legs?
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The bulls do it all the time.
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06-15-2007, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind
But NOT according to Evang. Benincasa in this thread.
In his rationale- we are all lost.
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Well, the Word of God says different, so he can argue with God about it.
I have been to an AOG church where people have the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues, but they haven't been baptized in Jesus name. I do believe that God will send people to show them the way to the truth about baptism in Jesus name. I have also seen where the Apostolic churches have hurt people so bad, that they do not want to have nothing to do with Apostolics at all. I have met some people like that, but God can heal them and I believe that some will be healed from the abuse that Apostolics have given them.
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06-15-2007, 02:58 PM
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Saved & Shaved
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rico
The bulls do it all the time.
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Yes, but it is for reasons of functionality. I was a member of the F.F.A.
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