MANGUN, SUBER and the POA...SHOUTING ..TOGETHER!!!!

[triumphant1]

Originally Posted by Sandra

I will be with your pastors July 15th in the sunday morning service.
I went to JCM with Brett .

That is awesome! I love their church!!!

Funny thing, I was baptized at 7 and received the Holy Ghost at 9 in the building that is now the youth church on the Grace campus...that was over 30 years ago...I have come full circle in my life for sure now that I'm 40!

[CC1]

Originally Posted by triumphant1

That is awesome! I love their church!!!

Funny thing, I was baptized at 7 and received the Holy Ghost at 9 in the building that is now the youth church on the Grace campus...that was over 30 years ago...I have come full circle in my life for sure now that I'm 40!

I didn't realize that the new church was on the same campus as the old one. When I was at JCM my best friend Mark Carouthers went to that church so I visited when I went home with him several times.

[triumphant1]

Originally Posted by CC1

I didn't realize that the new church was on the same campus as the old one. When I was at JCM my best friend Mark Carouthers went to that church so I visited when I went home with him several times.

It isn't...Mt Houston (Jones' church) and Faith Tabernacle on Beltway 8 (Forrest Ford's church) merged in the late 80's. They sold the Mt Houston property in the early 90's and relocated to the Beltway 8 property which they owned as well.

I went to Bro. Ford's church--which was located where the Grace campus is today--until I was 10 when we started going to OR Fauss' church as a family.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by triumphant1

It isn't...Mt Houston (Jones' church) and Faith Tabernacle on Beltway 8 (Forrest Ford's church) merged in the late 80's. They sold the Mt Houston property in the early 90's and relocated to the Beltway 8 property which they owned as well.

I went to Bro. Ford's church--which was located where the Grace campus is today--until I was 10 when we started going to OR Fauss' church as a family.

Oh! I would love to visit Grace Church. I just don't ever have any reason to visit Houston anymore.

In a couple of weeks I am going to visit a Charismtaic Church in Longview, TX for Sunday morning and then A.D. Spears church Sunday night. I have relatives that go to both churches.

[revrandy]

Would Grace Church be considered a Charismatic Church?

[CC1]

Originally Posted by revrandy

Would Grace Church be considered a Charismatic Church?

I am sure by most UPCers. They consider any church that uses motions "charismatic"!!! LOL

Grace Church is much like most of the other exUPC churches. I would say it is much like Mike Haye's Covenant Church, Christ Church Nashville, Jack DeHart's church, Jabo Green's church, etc, etc.

[triumphant1]

Originally Posted by revrandy

Would Grace Church be considered a Charismatic Church?

Probably would...

[chaotic_resolve]

Originally Posted by revrandy

Would Grace Church be considered a Charismatic Church?

Define "Charasmatic."

Definitions of charismatic on the Web:

A Christian who shows signs of immediate inspiration by the Holy Spirit in worship, such as speaking in tongues, prophesying, and healing. Based on the Greek words "charis" or "grace", and "charisma" or "gift of grace". Paul describes many charismatic gifts in 1 Corinthians 12 and 14. Modern "charismatics" may or may not experience the same gifts.
gbgm-umc.org/umw/corinthians/glossary.stm

relating to Christians of various groups who seek an ecstatic religious experience, often including speaking in tongues and instantaneous healing
jmahoney.com/glossary.htm

the ability to lead and influence large numbers of people.
oregonstate.edu/instruct/anth370/gloss.html

also known as "Neo-Pentecostalism" that arose in the mid-twentieth century among members of mainline Protestant denominations and Roman Catholicism. This movement practiced such Pentecostal doctrines as speaking in tongues, faith healing, and stressed subjective experiences with the Holy Spirit. Although initially interdenominational, the Charismatic movement spawned non-denominational Christian groups that do not necessarily fit into the category of Protestantism or Roman Catholicism.
members.tripod.com/monsterwax/terms.html

Charismatic is an umbrella term used to describe those Christians who believe that the manifestations of the Holy Spirit seen in the first century Christian Church, such as speaking in tongues (skeptics unsure of this practice claim it to be a mere showing of glossolalia), healing and miracles, are available to contemporary Christians and ought to be experienced and practiced today.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charismatic

These definitions could well include the UPC.

[Whole Hearted]

Originally Posted by revrandy

Would Grace Church be considered a Charismatic Church?

yes

[Trouvere]

I have to say it.I hate the us and them mentality.