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07-06-2007, 01:50 PM
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Me and my sister Terri
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Originally Posted by Ronzo
"Giving to receive" is not giving. It's manipulation. "I'm giving, God, so I expect something back!"
No... that does not work. That's giving for the wrong reason...
Giving simply to give is the right way... give simply because there's a need and you want to help fill it. No expectation of personal return on your 'investment'.
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I have never given to receive, I love to give. You don't know me.
The uncommon seed seems to always bring me harvest.
You give like you want and I will do the same.
I know who you are and .... oh well... figures.
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07-06-2007, 05:01 PM
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God's Son
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It's not the doctrine that's damnable. It's the maturity of the christian receiving it that's damnable. You ought to have heard the self proclaimed experts rail on the Prayer of Jabez. A gross misrepresentation by psuedo experts on a wonderful way to live a godly life.
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Originally Posted by Cotton Mather
Agreed. But this is a damnable doctrine. It motivates saints to give out of selfishness instead of love. It is investment theology. This is not about investment, it is about reward.
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07-06-2007, 05:14 PM
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James 5
1 Go to now, ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you. 2 Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are motheaten. 3 Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days. 4 Behold, the hire of the labourers who have reaped down your fields, which is of you kept back by fraud, crieth: and the cries of them which have reaped are entered into the ears of the Lord of sabaoth. 5 Ye have lived in pleasure on the earth, and been wanton; ye have nourished your hearts, as in a day of slaughter. 6 Ye have condemned and killed the just; and he doth not resist you.
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07-06-2007, 05:19 PM
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Me and my sister Terri
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I am not a selfish person, but selfish people usually hate to hear anything about giving.
Of course no one on AFF is selfish, just generally speaking. JMO
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07-06-2007, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Sandra
I have never given to receive, I love to give. You don't know me.
The uncommon seed seems to always bring me harvest.
You give like you want and I will do the same.
I know who you are and .... oh well... figures.
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I didn't say you did... and you're making as much of an assumption aabout what I said, as you claim I did about what you said (when I didn't assume ANYTHING about you, nor did I point my finger at YOU).
I am now though...
Pot (you) speaking to the kettle (me), "You're black"
All I did is make a comment based on your comment... I didn't jump on you.
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07-06-2007, 05:21 PM
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Supercalifragilisticexpiali...
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Originally Posted by Pianoman
I have never, and will never give to a TV preacher! I have given to uncommon needs within my local church and community.
I agree with MOW about some of the hogwash!
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Ditto
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Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
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07-06-2007, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Sandra
I know who you are and .... oh well... figures.
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You REALLY don't want to go there, do you?
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07-06-2007, 05:34 PM
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Registered Member
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Location: Louisiana
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandra
I am not a selfish person, but selfish people usually hate to hear anything about giving.
Of course no one on AFF is selfish, just generally speaking. JMO
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Hey Sandra,
Mike Murdock is from Franklin,La.He grew up attending the Ham St. Pentecostal Church which is AOG.I have alot of friends who have attended there over the years.My childhood friend Myrna Liners dad used to pastor it.They looked UPC
when were were in first grade.I remember them all wearing dresses and having long hair.Funny how small the world really is.
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07-06-2007, 06:16 PM
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Psalms 132:1
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Ho hum.
Nothing new.
Looks like once again the TBN crowd is teaching some of the so called Apostolic profits how to suck SS checks out of old widow women.
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07-06-2007, 06:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Paths
Ho hum.
Nothing new.
Looks like once again the TBN crowd is teaching some of the so called Apostolic profits how to suck SS checks out of old widow women.
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