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Old 07-14-2007, 10:53 PM
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What kind of churches? Are they in harmony with the doctrine you preach and the holiness standards you're comfortable with, adhere to and expect from those you pastor?

Am I asking too many questions? Oops! LOL!
Not totally.

We agree on basic doctrine, but our holiness standards vary wildly.
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Old 07-14-2007, 10:54 PM
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Only to be pressured to give more at rallies and conferences so that someone can make budget .... and impress the invited speaker w/ a hefty honorarium
And give kickbacks to officials on monies raised through fundraising.
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Old 07-14-2007, 10:55 PM
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And give kickbacks to officials on monies raised through fundraising.
for every type of offering pushed almost monthly now ....
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Old 07-14-2007, 10:56 PM
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Yes I work a secular job and I help at my local church ,very rarely do I preach out but I do on occasion ,My Pastor is UPCI.My Pastor does approve of my preaching out.
I do fill in for him when he goes out of town ,and do preach an occasional sunday night service.
My rule of thumb is this any subject that me and my Pastor disagree on ,I don't preach my side to the church ,his view is what they hear,I let him handle the pastoral subjects.
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Old 07-14-2007, 10:56 PM
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In my experience, any minister under sixty is considered a "young man" in the UPC. He is expected to hold his tongue at business meetings until that age. Funny when you consider we have congressmen, senators and even presidents with much experience and input before the age of 45.
Do you think this is true UPC-wide? Or does it depend on the district and the leadership of any particular district?

I think young men need to be given a chance, but young men who are pushing and shoving for position, leverage and a voice may be considered a pain in the neck.
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Old 07-14-2007, 10:57 PM
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I may be wrong about this, but doesn't graduation from a UPC Bible College mean that the person qualifies for a General License? Or does this vary from district to district? I've heard Bible school enrollment and graduation is down, but are the graduates just not seeking licensing in as great a number as before?
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Old 07-14-2007, 10:58 PM
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I may be wrong about this, but doesn't graduation from a UPC Bible College mean that the person qualifies for a General License? Or does this vary from district to district? I've heard Bible school enrollment and graduation is down, but are the graduates just not seeking licensing in as great a number as before?
If your degree means nothing in comparison to a pedigree .... why even try.
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Old 07-14-2007, 10:58 PM
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Do you think this is true UPC-wide? Or does it depend on the district and the leadership of any particular district?

I think young men need to be given a chance, but young men who are pushing and shoving for position, leverage and a voice may be considered a pain in the neck.

I don't see any young men pushing for position.

What position is there to push for?

I do believe it is true fellowship wide, that's why there is less than 400.
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Old 07-14-2007, 10:59 PM
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I don't see any young men pushing for position.

What position is there to push for?

I do believe it is true fellowship wide, that's why there is less than 400.
There are the ambitious types at every age group.
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Old 07-14-2007, 11:01 PM
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If your degree means nothing in comparison to a pedigree .... why even try.
A BC degree is a worthless piece of paper. Many of our youth have figured this out. Perhaps their parents realized there was no value in that diploma and urged them to seek a real degree elsewhere?
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