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Old 07-24-2007, 12:36 PM
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I don't think this sentence is accurate. Yes you can love someone that you don't respect. Jesus love is a love that goes beyond being earned. He loves us when we are disrespectful to Him by living a sinful life. I know a few people that I don't respect or trust that much, yet I love them enough to pray for them and to be committed to seeing them saved. The kind of Love Jesus expects us to show is the Corinthians Love Chapter kind of love. Love that turns the other cheek, love that humbles us, love that makes us act as a servant.

You can be act and respond respectfully to those that have not earned respect by their own deeds and words.
Well said and so true.

We can interact respectfully whether or not one has earned a place of respect or not.
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reading your post I felt a confident agreement in my spirit.

I also had a thought....
the scripture you alluded to was likely:
A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

could it be that our lack of love one to another is because we do NOT feel loved by our Lord?
tbpew,
IMO, I think, many times, we see things in ourselves that we don't like and it bleeds into other relationships. I'm not sure we don't feel loved by God, but we feel "not" loved by ourselves.
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I think it is also a case of living what you learn.

The scripture that tbp quoted is true, of course, but... who has been taught this?

Sure the pastor might have mentioned it a few times in the last decade but who ever experiences thoughtful, well thought out and applicable teaching on subjects like loving & respecting one another.... how to interact in a productive & respectful manner.

The word can say all it wants to but if people are never taught or reach a place of personal revelation that ties this scripture to our lives with binds of applicability then it has no effect on our lives.

There is a vast chasm in today's church world of the missing element of slow, systematic, applicable teaching of the word. Of taking the bread of the word and breaking before brethren in a manner that is relevant to how they will live their lives and interact with people tomorrow.
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I personally think that DIS-respect is out-of-bounds for a disciple of Jesus Christ.

Coop's initial prompt was all on the "respect" side of the line. Can or should certain folks be granted MORE respect than the 'garden variety', common to all human creatures, respect.

Since the scriptures witness that a person who is a faithful guide/leader is worthy of double honor, it would seem reasonable to consider that some may appropriately receive additional respect.
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How about this.......are we all equal in the freedom to post views?

If I post anything about certain groups or offices held I get chased around by a few on threads.

Are there certain topics not allowed on AFF? Especially if it puts ministry in Question?

Are there certain groups protected?

But yet ministry can start threads about saints?
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I personally think that DIS-respect is out-of-bounds for a disciple of Jesus Christ.

Coop's initial prompt was all on the "respect" side of the line. Can or should certain folks be granted MORE respect than the 'garden variety', common to all human creatures, respect.

Since the scriptures witness that a person who is a faithful guide/leader is worthy of double honor, it would seem reasonable to consider that some may appropriately receive additional respect.
So bonus respect can be earned????
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I personally think that DIS-respect is out-of-bounds for a disciple of Jesus Christ.

Coop's initial prompt was all on the "respect" side of the line. Can or should certain folks be granted MORE respect than the 'garden variety', common to all human creatures, respect.

Since the scriptures witness that a person who is a faithful guide/leader is worthy of double honor, it would seem reasonable to consider that some may appropriately receive additional respect.
Amen...

I agree with you 100%
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I don't think this sentence is accurate. Yes you can love someone that you don't respect. Jesus love is a love that goes beyond being earned. He loves us when we are disrespectful to Him by living a sinful life. I know a few people that I don't respect or trust that much, yet I love them enough to pray for them and to be committed to seeing them saved. The kind of Love Jesus expects us to show is the Corinthians Love Chapter kind of love. Love that turns the other cheek, love that humbles us, love that makes us act as a servant.

You can be act and respond respectfully to those that have not earned respect by their own deeds and words.
Yes, you can love the person in spite of their deeds and words if you love the person as simply a person, not based on their deeds or words.

But if you don't respect someone as a person, you can't love them because you don't hold them in high regard, you don't esteem them - the very definitions of respect.
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I personally think that DIS-respect is out-of-bounds for a disciple of Jesus Christ.

Coop's initial prompt was all on the "respect" side of the line. Can or should certain folks be granted MORE respect than the 'garden variety', common to all human creatures, respect.

Since the scriptures witness that a person who is a faithful guide/leader is worthy of double honor, it would seem reasonable to consider that some may appropriately receive additional respect.
Divine revelation???
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So bonus respect can be earned????
I have several mentors in my life who have earned a higher level of respect than most all others because of the word they have to share... their demeanor of respect toward others etc.

As a matter of fact... I see tbp as one of those.
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