Tv Results In The Mail!

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Straightline

The pro-tv articles in The Forward could only compel 1175 to vote yes? Must not have been a strong argument.


There can be no deviation in a
Straightline

Er....couldn't the same thing be said for the anti-tv articles in the Forward? I didn't notice them swaying the masses either.

All this means is that minds have been made up on this issue for a long time.

[Hoovie]

5. Would the adoption of a limited use of tv have an affect on your relationship with the UPCI? 935 yes/ 1427 no, 55 no response

In reading this again - It is not at all clear what these respondants meant.

IT COULD VERY WELL MEAN THEY WILL HAVE A CLOSER AND MORE FAVORABLE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE UPCI!

[Newman]

Originally Posted by CC1

Have you been stealing Ferd's meds? If your number one point ever became a problem then the conservatives would just totally ban the internet like they have TV, not accept TV!!!!

I really expected the position of no internet that I heard from the pulpit at this years AMC conference in Nashville to be the default position of all cons and ultra cons so have been surprised at how many are on the internet.

You can't ban the internet unless you want to ensure that said people are unemployable for professional and business jobs in an age where factory jobs are quickly disappearing.

Better to learn how to handle the internet than to ban it. Likewise, with libraries, books, magazines, tv programing, etc.

[Newman]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

5. Would the adoption of a limited use of tv have an affect on your relationship with the UPCI? 935 yes/ 1427 no, 55 no response

In reading this again - It is not at all clear what these respondants meant.

IT COULD VERY WELL MEAN THEY WILL HAVE A CLOSER AND MORE FAVORABLE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE UPCI!

Great point!

[Steve Epley]

Again I am confused about all the hoopla about this issue I do NOT know one UPC church in 50 miles that makes a stand against television. I am afraid this is the majority of UPC churches. Many who claim to be against it only give lip service on rare occasions and no one even raises an eyebrow because they know the preacher will put no teeth into what he says.

[Straightline]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

5. Would the adoption of a limited use of tv have an affect on your relationship with the UPCI? 935 yes/ 1427 no, 55 no response

In reading this again - It is not at all clear what these respondants meant.

IT COULD VERY WELL MEAN THEY WILL HAVE A CLOSER AND MORE FAVORABLE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE UPCI!

SH:

You would have to have been on the conference floor last year in Columbus. The whole purpose of the Mullings motion was to study the adverse affect that passing then res.#6 would have on the fellowship. While the wording is indeed somewhat vague, anyone reading The Forward would know what it implies.


The highway of Holiness runs in a
Straightline

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Again I am confused about all the hoopla about this issue I do NOT know one UPC church in 50 miles that makes a stand against television. I am afraid this is the majority of UPC churches. Many who claim to be against it only give lip service on rare occasions and no one even raises an eyebrow because they know the preacher will put no teeth into what he says.

I think what you consider "a stand" and what many consider one are probably different.

I have a feeling that in your paradigm "a stand" means that to attend your church no one can have or watch a tv (once they have been going a little while).

In many other peoples paradigm "a stand" is preaching against the content on TV and / or requiring platform people, choir members, SS teachers, etc to not have them but not making having one a matter of fellowshiop in general.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Newman

You can't ban the internet unless you want to ensure that said people are unemployable for professional and business jobs in an age where factory jobs are quickly disappearing.

Better to learn how to handle the internet than to ban it. Likewise, with libraries, books, magazines, tv programing, etc.

The preacher I heard at the AMC conference bans the internet. He has one man in his church who has to be on it for his job and the pastor made him filter his access where he can only access the two web addresses he has to to do his job!

This is the same pastor who does not allow anyone in his church under the age of 18 to have a cell phone. I found it extremely odd (and cultic) that he would be making this kind of decision for parents.

But he did sing great!

[Straightline]

Originally Posted by CC1

Er....couldn't the same thing be said for the anti-tv articles in the Forward? I didn't notice them swaying the masses either.

Again, the burden to persuade falls with those that want change.


Straighten up and fly right in a
Straightline

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by Amos

I have no plans to immediately leave, but here is how it will affect my relationship:

I will be watching closely for other signs of decay that will prompt my departure, and I will quit sending so much special offering money to HQ.

I'll wait until after the deadline and send my SFC to the district.

Sooooooo, you're holding SFC hostage?