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Old 09-06-2007, 06:02 PM
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The blood is of what was sacrificed. That does not mean he does not still stand as High Priest. In fact since the sacrifice is still sufficient and active..one sacrifice for all it makes sense there would still be a priest. And in fact that is what Hebrews says several times. He is the high Priest forever after the order of melchizedek
Exactly. Good way of putting it. The sacrirfice was for once and for all. BUT NOT THE PRIESTHOOD MINISTRY. The high priest SITS THERE FOR US NOW so we CAN ENTER THE HOLIEST. His intercession is involving OUR ACTUAL ENTERING into the holiest. I really think those who oppose the idea of present intercession are completely missing this part of Hebrews' teachings.

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Heb 10:19-22 KJV Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus, (20) By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh; (21) And having an high priest over the house of God; (22) Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.
He is a high priest OVER THE HOUSE OF GOD.

It is not a high priest we LOOK TO IN THE PAST WHEN ATONEMENT WAS MADE. We have one RIGHT NOW who is PRESENTLY ACTIVE IN MINISTRY OVER THE HOUSE OF GOD. We have access to the mercyseat BECAUSE OF ACTIVE DUTY OF THE HIGH PRIEST.

This brings in anothre thought of the priesthood no one has mentioned yet.

The PEOPLE were considered to have entered the mopst holy place WHEN THE HIGH PRIEST DID, during times of old. This is because the high priest was there for the people BY PROXY for them. They laid their hands on the priests, to show the priests' actions were as though the people did them. And the priests laid their hands on the high priest, to show that his actions ultimately represented all the priests and the people who laid their hands on the priests. So he went into the holiest AS THEM.

Well, CHRIST IS OUR HIGH PRIEST. He is in the Holiest AS US. But Hebrews is saying we do nto appreciate that as yet. If we did, we would have practical victory in everything.

Since entrance into the HOLIEST is something Hebrews 10 teaches WE CAN EXPERIENCE NOW, WELL AFTER WE WERE ATONED FOR, and it mentions this is possible since we HAVE a high priest who is presently over the house of God, then his MINISTRY is OCCURRING NOW before God, AS US in there.

The idea of the actual time of offering the blood being the only issue involved in the priesthood, as Bro Strange and Jones are saying, I believe, dismisses the entire concept of THE MAN ACTUALLY STANDING AS US IN OUR PLACES right now FOR US TO ENTER. Yes, He offered blood. But He went in BECAUSE OF THE BLOOD. AND HE STILL IS IN THERE DUE TO THAT SAME BLOOD. And Hebrews 10 applies this to us and says that if we can only appreciate the PROXY position Christ holds as us, WE CAN ENTER AS WELL by way of practically having victory, since the blood paid for that position for us.

So the aspect of HIM BEING PROXY in position AS US has to be involved in this issue. And I propose Bro Strange and Bro Jones have neglected this aspect, which has caused them to not see any present intercession occurring.
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