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Old 09-12-2007, 09:11 AM
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While I agree provisionally with what I think the elder is saying, I can't help but wonder how readily he and his contemporaries would like to take the same template and apply it to teaching against birth control.



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I think the real question is how can we get those that are intolerant of compromise to tolerate a compromise with those who won't compromise with the intolerant?

It's virtually impossible to discuss such abstract concepts in a meaningful way due to the staggering variety of experiences coloring and filtering the perceptions and dialogue.
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So does teaching follow true tolerance in the church as the writer suggests? Is it true tolerance to leave someone outside of a "more perfect way"? Should Aquila and Priscilla have just tolerated Apollos Should a new child of God just be tolerated and left as a child, or be taught to grow in God?
Teach the things of the heart. Teach that the person should seek and listen to the Holy Spirit in the areas of the outward. Otherwise, how is one to grow strong in the Lord, if they are not taught to hear and walk accordingly.
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One man's tolerance is another man's compromise.
Most accurate post on this thread! We can argue until we turn blue, but when the dust settles, it comes down to your quote!
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Most accurate post on this thread! We can argue until we turn blue, but when the dust settles, it comes down to your quote!
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Old 09-12-2007, 01:06 PM
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A Freudian typo, there?

I said:


You said:


I said:


You said:


I said:


You said:


It seems like we both said the same things. Pretty much anyway. Just for the record.

This kind of mix up inevitably happens whenever two superheroes first cross each other's paths. There is the de riguer misunderstanding and both heroes fight it out through a large splash panel. Then, after having tested each other's powers they team up and fight evil.
it probably was a freudian typo, yes, lol...

and I see what you are syaing... I'm not sure why i read it the way I did the first time I read it.... lol
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Old 09-12-2007, 01:08 PM
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I see this too,
when conduct is greatly influenced by restrictions and rules. There is no indication however, that one who lives free from the rules would be much LESS modest than one who does.
There's no indication that one who doesn't follow the UPC's rules would live a less modest life than one who does either....
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Old 09-12-2007, 02:05 PM
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I was face to face with this man two weeks ago......
He is a decent man but not the spokesman for the mainstream.
He is a radical in his own circle.

I prefer blocking out this type of sentiment and opinions.
You must have met an impostor. Until now, I have NEVER heard Elder Groce described as a radical in his own circle. You must be confusing his circles with those they found over in England among the crops.
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There's no indication that one who doesn't follow the UPC's rules would live a less modest life than one who does either....
This, of course is the crux of the matter... and I am not so sure I agree with you.
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Old 09-12-2007, 07:00 PM
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This, of course is the crux of the matter... and I am not so sure I agree with you.
Maybe not, but Paul urges people like me (who disagree with the rules) to deal with people like you (who are weak in the faith)

maybe its time that the rulekeepers stopped babying themselves and grew up, ya know?
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