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Old 10-09-2007, 11:45 AM
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I posted this before but I believe Wesley had it right.




Arise, my soul, arise; shake off thy guilty fears;
The bleeding sacrifice in my behalf appears:
Before the throne my surety stands,
Before the throne my surety stands,
My name is written on His hands.

He ever lives above, for me to intercede;
His all redeeming love, His precious blood, to plead:
His blood atoned for all our race,
His blood atoned for all our race,
And sprinkles now the throne of grace.

Five bleeding wounds He bears; received on Calvary;
They pour effectual prayers; they strongly plead for me:
“Forgive him, O forgive,” they cry,
“Forgive him, O forgive,” they cry,
“Nor let that ransomed sinner die!”

The Father hears Him pray, His dear anointed One;
He cannot turn away, the presence of His Son;
His Spirit answers to the blood,
His Spirit answers to the blood,
And tells me I am born of God.

My God is reconciled; His pardoning voice I hear;
He owns me for His child; I can no longer fear:
With confidence I now draw nigh,
With confidence I now draw nigh,
And “Father, Abba, Father,” cry.


I agree that is part of it. Speaking of ministers, I like how Andrew Murray brought it out that the intercession is emphasized in Hebrews as being for saints already saved to come unto perfection.

But it does show the humanity continuing to exist in contrast to deity, right?
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Old 10-09-2007, 11:48 AM
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I agree that is part of it. Speaking of ministers, I like how Andrew Murray brought it out that the intercession is emphasized in Hebrews as being for saints already saved to come unto perfection.

But it does show the humanity continuing to exist in contrast to deity, right?
Explain 'contrast'.
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Old 10-09-2007, 11:51 AM
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Explain 'contrast'.
It arises from some discussions here where some, whom I believe were in error, proposed that there is no humanity left in Chrst, and that the Son is not glorified humanity but rather His humanity has turned into Deity. So, the Lord as High Priest is not a human being glorified from mortal to immortal flesh, and that the flesh is actualy pure deity now. They say the Son is not human as well as deity any more as He was before the resurrection, but purely deity alone now.
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Old 10-09-2007, 11:54 AM
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I agree that Christ is still both human and divine but I'm sure we would have our differences.....
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Old 10-09-2007, 11:56 AM
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I agree that Christ is still both human and divine but I'm sure we would have our differences.....
Yes, I would say we do disagree in other aspects of the Son. lol But my point here is that Hebrews so plainly teaches the huamnity still exists in the Son and that ther eis a distinction and contrast between it and Deity even in Romans 6:10. His LIVING UNTO GOD is still occurring. And that is indication something in Him is contrasted with "God"-hood.
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Old 10-09-2007, 12:10 PM
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Yes, I would say we do disagree in other aspects of the Son. lol But my point here is that Hebrews so plainly teaches the huamnity still exists in the Son and that ther eis a distinction and contrast between it and Deity even in Romans 6:10. His LIVING UNTO GOD is still occurring. And that is indication something in Him is contrasted with "God"-hood.
Of coarse I would have to say " person-hood".
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Old 10-09-2007, 12:16 PM
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Of coarse I would have to say " person-hood".
But you would also say "Godhood," though, right?
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But you would also say "Godhood," though, right?
Yes....
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Yes....
And how can anyone refute that, when considering Romans 6:10? We just see no responses from that crowd.
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I have no probelm thinking of Jesus Christ as the great High Priest over the household of faith.
Jesus Christ offered us the ultimate sacrifce,making the animal sacrifices the Levites offered obsolete.
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