Would you report an Illegal?

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by pelathais

It's not practical. For better or for worse we have to live with the policies of the past. "Ratting out" every illegal and then expecting a response from law enforcement each time would place too great a strain on the system.

It's better to use our freedoms. It was primarily market forces and injustices at home that brought people here. Adapt to those forces and you will then also be pressuring the illegals govts at home to change.

Put some teeth into existing laws, truly penalize employers who violate the law and secure the border. Mexico and Central America would be better places to live and work if we did that. It's kind of like Americans giving up drugs. If we did that Columbia would be a lot better place to live and work.

The pull and influence of our free markets (and black markets!) are extremely powerful. We need to look at the big picture and make a few tweaks to the status quo. The right tweaks and we won't have to run around hounding 20 or 30 million illegal aliens.

Personally, I don't want to live in a country where there's that kind of a crack down.

I needs to be done. I would love to see a major crack down. America needs to send a message, get some grit and
use it's power.

The terrorist love that America is so vulnerable and sympathetic to those that trespass or freedoms.

The next major terrorist attack will likely filter Thur Mexico.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17874369/

Hezbula has a 25,000 man army in South America in the neutral zone. The leader has already said he will kill our president within moments if we attack Iran.

[Praxeas]

In reading that, I have to wonder why we have not bombed them into oblivion....wasn't it our competent leader that said any nation that harbors enemies of the US is our enemy too? We went after the Taliban because they harbored Bin Laden....and considering the terrain and the Islamic sympathy there, that would be much harder than going covertly after these guys in a no mans land between nations that are NOT islamic

[Praxeas]

BTW you are confusing the issue. That article is about porous borders and we all want our borders shut down. Sending back every illegal to their home country (which is expensive) does not prevent Hezbollah from coming in

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by COOPER

I needs to be done. I would love to see a major crack down. America needs to send a message, get some grit and
use it's power.

The terrorist love that America is so vulnerable and sympathetic to those that trespass or freedoms.

The next major terrorist attack will likely filter Thur Mexico.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17874369/

Hezbula has a 25,000 man army in South America in the neutral zone. The leader has already said he will kill our president within moments if we attack Iran.

According to the article there are 25,000 Muslims in the area and Hezbollah has been recruiting from that population.

They are dangerous however, they killed scores of people in a single terrorist attack in Argentina a few years back.

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

BTW you are confusing the issue. That article is about porous borders and we all want our borders shut down. Sending back every illegal to their home country (which is expensive) does not prevent Hezbollah from coming in

America is wounded, clean up the wounds to prevent infection.

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by pelathais

According to the article there are 25,000 Muslims in the area and Hezbollah has been recruiting from that population.

They are dangerous however, they killed scores of people in a single terrorist attack in Argentina a few years back.

Something is not right.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by pelathais

There's something wrong with a society when its citizens have such fear. We need to stand together.

I'm not saying we need to report every illegal, as this thread suggests. But the fact that they're illegal does give law enforcement another tool to use when they're investigating other crimes.

We don't need to "rat out" every illegal. But our society can pick and choose among them to rid itself of trouble makers. American born trouble makers are trouble enough without having Castro empty his prisons like he did and send criminials to the US to save his govt money.

Mexico follows a similar path. If there wasn't the saftey valve of easy US immigration, the ruling class there would have had to fix their problems long ago or face revolution. Instead, our porous borders have served to perpetuate injustice within Mexico.

Pelathais, you make several very good points here. I agree with you 100%. Illegal Mexican immigration is a problem only in that the numbers are beginning to get to a level that are unsustainable. Also the impact to the economy is reaching a tipping point. While illegal immigration has been a benefit to the US economy (this is the real reason why nothing has been done about it), that is beginning to change because of the hidden costs in education/healthcare/and other costs that are absorbed by Americans in the form of taxes and higher insurance premiums.

That doesn’t mean we need to remove every illegal from this country. However, we do need to get control of the southern boarder and stop the flow into this country. Doing so will put a great deal of pressure on Mexico to reform their nation and that is needed very badly.

Would I report an illegal? Depends. I’m not reporting anyone I might be going to church with that is for sure. However, if I were to come in contact with a business that is using illegal labor, I would absolutely do so.