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Old 02-11-2008, 02:36 PM
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Re: Pushing or Praying?

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Praise the Lord. I'm sure she was blessed.

Ron,
When you say "pushed" a bit, how did he do that? Could you feel he was aggravated or was he leading, in a gentle way, where you would not have known the situation unless you were a part?
"Come on Church let's go a little farther!"
"Let's worship him"

It is a little bit of pushing.

God spoke t0o them in the pulpit & said I am going to take you where you need to go!
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You mean a 180 I think.
No, I actually mean a total 360 degree turn!
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BTW PO, your sig line is funny!!
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"Come on Church let's go a little farther!"
"Let's worship him"

It is a little bit of pushing.

God spoke t0o them in the pulpit & said I am going to take you where you need to go!
Aww, I see. Yes, but that's the kind of service where you can FEEL God wants more from you. The congregation can also feel it.

I love those kinds.
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There is a fine line between pushing & leading.
We had a situation in Church yesterday where sadly a couple became hard headed & very stubborn toward the leadership (partly toward me-YEAH!)

I was dreading the service because unless a change came, we were going to meet after Church.

The person leading pre service prayer (we have an hour of prayer & a five or ten minute prayer to usher us in) had to push to overcome the nasty attitude in the atmosphere.
We broke through.

Worship started & the worship leader "pushed" a little bit in the singing and everyone
(most everyone) broke through to a mighty worship victory.
There were tongues & interpretation.

Alas, the meeting did not go well. They left in a huff!

I agree, there shouldn't be pushing but in some circumstances it is needed.

BTW, the person who gave the tongues is a 60 sister & this is her first service to do that!!!
Ron.....

Do you think that what your visitors might have been feeling was being overwhelmed and a little scared if they hadn't ever experienced that sort of thing before? It can be a very very heavy duty experience for people not acquainted with Pentecost and that kind of service.

I've heard people tell stories about how scared they were when they came to church for the first time. And how that when they were crying in the altar - it wasn't because of the presence of God - but because they were really absolutely and totally terrified!

It was an eye opener for me to hear someone relate this to me. We take so much for granted having been raised in church or been in church long enough that we're used to the presence of God and the moving of His Spirit.
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BTW PO, your sig line is funny!!
I was listening to her on Saturday and thought, "I need that one".
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You mean a 180 I think.
That'd be only turning half way.

360 turn is a complete turn.
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Mens!

That's not funny!

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That'd be only turning half way.

360 turn is a complete turn.
Yeppers! If we keep them confused they keep buying us stuff!

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That's not funny!

But you are laughing. Hypocrite!

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