You should have kept reading a little further down. Here, I copied it here for you to read, friend.
-Longer prison sentences for the same crimes for black men and a disproportionate willingness of our government to kill these men when they are on trial for murder.
I have to log off for awhile, but I'll be back later this evening. God bless all my neo-conservative, conservative, independent and liberal friends!
I read that Chosen. There is some truth in the statement that blacks get longer sentences. some. But not entirely.
Black men also are charged with more crimes. Black men are often given harsh sentences for violence against other black people.
Additionally we have many black men in prison for long terms related to crack when whites got much more reducedd sentences for powder cocain.
on the surface that seems racist. execpt that when you delve into the argument you find that crack is much more damageing to society as a whole and the black community in particular.
YES there is Racism. (everyone should read Rico' thoughts on the matter)
YES to some degree predjudice has played some roll in blacks being in jail longer.
but to blame that for the devistation in the black community is passing the buck.
is white racism to blame for the fact that more African American children are born in single parent homes than are born in two parent homes?
Is white racism ot blame for the fact that while 25% of all girls age 14 to 19 have had an STD, the number in the African American community exceeds 50%?
Racism cannot be blamed for all of the social problems that are sistemic in the black community. much of it rests on the shoulders of liberalism that has distroyed black families.
I am not suggesting that racism doesnt bare some blame. I am saying that the liberal answer falls extemely short of the panicia it has claimed to be!
let me be blunt, the answer to the problem is "stop acting like a thug and get a job". Jerimiah Wright needs to be saying that.
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Chris, I am looking at the policy that comes out of the actual democrat party. not the talk you are talking about some minority subsect that genreally gets the back of the rank and files hands (see Joe Leiberman)
What document are you refering to?
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I read that Chosen. There is some truth in the statement that blacks get longer sentences. some. But not entirely.
Black men also are charged with more crimes. Black men are often given harsh sentences for violence against other black people.
Additionally we have many black men in prison for long terms related to crack when whites got much more reducedd sentences for powder cocain.
on the surface that seems racist. execpt that when you delve into the argument you find that crack is much more damageing to society as a whole and the black community in particular.
YES there is Racism. (everyone should read Rico' thoughts on the matter)
YES to some degree predjudice has played some roll in blacks being in jail longer.
but to blame that for the devistation in the black community is passing the buck.
is white racism to blame for the fact that more African American children are born in single parent homes than are born in two parent homes?
Is white racism ot blame for the fact that while 25% of all girls age 14 to 19 have had an STD, the number in the African American community exceeds 50%?
Racism cannot be blamed for all of the social problems that are sistemic in the black community. much of it rests on the shoulders of liberalism that has distroyed black families.
I am not suggesting that racism doesnt bare some blame. I am saying that the liberal answer falls extemely short of the panicia it has claimed to be!
let me be blunt, the answer to the problem is "stop acting like a thug and get a job". Jerimiah Wright needs to be saying that.
Can you prove that he hasn't after all you've heard of his preaching? LOL
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"For I know the plans I have for you, declares the LORD, plans for wholeness and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope." Jeremiah 29:11 (English Standard Version)
The Democratic Platform for America: on Welfare & Poverty
Raise EITC & minimum wage to $7 & expand middle class
The dream of the middle class should belong to all Americans willing to work for it. We still have work to do as long as millions of Americans work full-time, fulfill their responsibilities, and continue to live in poverty. We will offer these Americans a ladder to the middle class. That means raising the minimum wage to $7.00, increasing the Earned Income Tax Credit and extending child credits so that parents who work full-time don't have to raise their children in poverty And it means continuing on the path of welfare reform. We must match parents' responsibility to work with the real opportunity to do so, by making sure parents can get the health care, child care, and transportation they need. And we must expect increased responsibility from fathers as well as mothers by increasing child support enforcement and promoting responsible fatherhood together with religious and civic organizations.
Source: The Democratic Platform for America, p.22
Welfare as you describe it...is a state by state issue.
Dude, if you are using the insane idea of raising the minimum wage as proof on non-liberal non-stupidity from your democrat friends, then I am sorry, your barking up the wrong tree.
Raising the minimum wage by congressional mandate is a stupid thing to do.
It is old school liberalism at its finest.
First in the short term it hurts the economy because it forces business owners to cut jobs.
Second in the long term it drives wage inflation which drives real inflation.
Third all it really does is secure the lowest possible wage for EVERYONE making the minimum up to the new minimum.
raising the minimum wage makes poor people poorer.....
the only people it helps are middle and upper income highschool kids put more gas in the cars their mommies and daddies bought them. LOL!
dude, you need to get a better idea. this one stinks!
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You should have kept reading a little further down. Here, I copied it here for you to read, friend.
-Longer prison sentences for the same crimes for black men and a disproportionate willingness of our government to kill these men when they are on trial for murder.
I have to log off for awhile, but I'll be back later this evening. God bless all my neo-conservative, conservative, independent and liberal friends!
Listen, you aren't going to like this, but what I speak is fact.
Black neighborhoods are well-known for being bad. And we aren't talking about simple breaking into cars or stealing lawn ornaments. They are horrible crimes that include murder, armed robbery, and rape. It's not the white people who are committing the crimes there, but the black people. I know black people who won't reside in black neighborhoods because of the crime rates.
In white neighborhoods, most of the murders are domestic related. Crimes like simple break-ins and stealing are more common. Rapes also happen but aren't likely to be random. Drugs are bad in both neighborhoods, but shootings over drugs are more likely to happen in the black neighborhoods.
Gangs have a lot to do with it. I'm not aware of white gangs, although there may be some that exist. I lived in neighborhoods where black and hispanic gangs were all that were seen.
The above being fact, it's no wonder that there are more blacks in the jails and prisons. This isn't the fault of the white man. This is each individual's fault.
Commit the crime, do the time. I don't care what color you are.
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I've gone and done it now! I'm on Facebook!!!
Document? how about every peice of legislation from FDR to Jimmy Carter to start with?
How about LBJ's Chicken in Every pot line?
how about the giant tenament buildings that became such and horror on the black community.
how about welfare systems that paid poor women to have more children but punished them for getting married?
Chris, i dont need a document and this drum beat of "provide documentation" is getting old.
You spent time in the projects Chris, tell me with a straight face you did not hear "the governmnet owes me" on a constant basis. That mentality was created by liberal policy that gave these folks starvation level funds that but stiffeled hope and drive to be better!
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Did preachers ever confront kings and political systems in the Bible? Should preachers not preach on issues relating to homosexuality and abortion from the pulpit? Any preacher worth his salt will address something he sees as an injustice, rather they be liberal or conservative.
Bro...Obama just wanted to accept that the comments were over the top and move on. But I don't see any reason to crucify him over this. It was a sermon...a sermon I didn't hear in it's entirety.
Did you?
Preachers worth their salt won't use their pulpit as a political soapbox. In fact, Paul didn't address the Roman government's permissiveness of sin...he addressed sin, and the power of Christ to change the life of sinners. Wright uses his pulpit to hammer what he perceives to be the ills of American government and white America.
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Twelfth Night (II, v, 156-159)
Wright's Theology as Victimology
By Anthony B. Bradley
Black Liberation theology actually encourages a victim mentality among blacks. John McWhorters' book Losing the Race, will be helpful here. Victimology, says McWhorter, is the adoption of victimhood as the core of one's identity--for example, like one who suffers through living in "a country and who lived in a culture controlled by rich white people." It is a subconscious, culturally inherited affirmation that life for Blacks in America has been in the past and will be in the future a life of being victimized by the oppression of Whites. In today's terms, it is the conviction that, forty years after the Civil Rights Act, conditions for Blacks have not substantially changed. As Wright intimates, for example, scores of black men regularly get passed over by cab drivers.
Reducing black identity to "victim" distorts the reality of true progress. For example, was Obama a victim of widespread racial oppression at the hand of "rich white people" before graduating from Columbia University, Harvard Law School magna cum laude, or after he acquired his estimated net worth of $1.3 million? How did "rich white people" keep Obama from succeeding? If Obama is the model of an oppressed black man, I want to be oppressed next! With my graduate school debt my net worth is literally negative $52,659.
The overall result, says McWhorter, is that "the remnants of discrimination hold an obsessive indignant fascination that allows only passing acknowledgement of any signs of progress." Jeremiah Wright infused with victimology, wielded self-righteous indignation in the service of exposing the inadequacies Hilary Clinton's world of "rich white people." The perpetual creation of a racial identity born out of self-loathing and anxiety often spends more time inventing reasons to cry racism than working toward changing social mores, and often inhibits movement toward reconciliation and positive mobility.
McWhorter articulates three main objections of victimology: First, victimology condones weakness in failure. Victimology tacitly stamps approval on failure, lack of effort, and criminality. Behaviors and patterns that are self-destructive are often approved of as cultural or presented as unpreventable consequences from previous systemic patterns. Black liberation theologians are clear on this point: "People are poor because they are victims of others," says Dr. Dwight Hopkins, a black liberation theologian teaching at the University of Chicago Divinity School.
Second, victimology hampers progress because, from the outset, it focuses attention on obstacles. For example, in Black liberation theology, the focus is on the impediment of Black freedom in light of the Goliath of White racism.
Third, victimology keeps racism alive because many Whites are constantly painted as racist with no evidence provided. Racism charges create a context for backlash and resentment fueling new attitudes among whites not previously held or articulated, and creates "separatism"--a suspension of moral judgment in the name of racial solidarity. Does Jeremiah Wright foster separatism or racial unity and reconciliation?
For black liberation theologians Sunday is uniquely tied to redefining their sense of being human within a context of marginalization. "Black people who have been humiliated and oppressed by the structures of White society six days of the week gather together each Sunday morning in order to experience another definition of their humanity," says James Cone in his book Speaking the Truth (1999).
Many black theologians believe that both racism and socio-economic oppression continue to augment the fragmentation between Whites and Blacks. Historically speaking, it makes sense that Black theologians would struggle with conceptualizing social justice and the problem of evil as it relates to the history of colonialism and slavery in the Americas.
Is black liberation theology helping? Wright's liberation theology has stirred up resentment, backlash, Obama defections, separatism, white guilt, caricature, and offense. Preaching to a congregation of middle-class blacks about their victim identity invites a distorted view of reality, fosters nihilism, and divides rather than unites.
Anthony B. Bradley is a research fellow at the Acton Institute, and assistant professor of theology at Covenant Theological Seminary in St. Louis. His PhD dissertation is titled, "Victimology in Black Liberation Theology."
Hope this hasn't already been posted, but I read it earlier today and thought it interesting, considering the current discussion....
A Brief for Whitey By Patrick J. Buchanan
Friday, March 21, 2008
How would he pull it off? I wondered.
How would Barack explain to his press groupies why he sat silent in a pew for 20 years as the Rev. Jeremiah Wright delivered racist rants against white America for our maligning of Fidel and Gadhafi, and inventing AIDS to infect and kill black people?
How would he justify not walking out as Wright spewed his venom about "the U.S. of K.K.K. America," and howled, "God **** America!"
My hunch was right. Barack would turn the tables.
Yes, Barack agreed, Wright's statements were "controversial," and "divisive," and "racially charged," reflecting a "distorted view of America."
But we must understand the man in full and the black experience out of which the Rev. Wright came: 350 years of slavery and segregation.
Barack then listed black grievances and informed us what white America must do to close the racial divide and heal the country.
The "white community," said Barack, must start "acknowledging that what ails the African-American community does not just exist in the minds of black people; that the legacy of discrimination -- and current incidents of discrimination, while less overt than in the past -- are real and must be addressed. Not just with words, but with deeds ... ."
And what deeds must we perform to heal ourselves and our country?
The "white community" must invest more money in black schools and communities, enforce civil rights laws, ensure fairness in the criminal justice system and provide this generation of blacks with "ladders of opportunity" that were "unavailable" to Barack's and the Rev. Wright's generations.
What is wrong with Barack's prognosis and Barack's cure?
Only this. It is the same old con, the same old shakedown that black hustlers have been running since the Kerner Commission blamed the riots in Harlem, Watts, Newark, Detroit and a hundred other cities on, as Nixon put it, "everybody but the rioters themselves."
Was "white racism" really responsible for those black men looting auto dealerships and liquor stories, and burning down their own communities, as Otto Kerner said -- that liberal icon until the feds put him away for bribery.
Barack says we need to have a conversation about race in America.
Fair enough. But this time, it has to be a two-way conversation. White America needs to be heard from, not just lectured to.
This time, the Silent Majority needs to have its convictions, grievances and demands heard. And among them are these:
First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known.
Wright ought to go down on his knees and thank God he is an American.
Second, no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the '60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream.
Governments, businesses and colleges have engaged in discrimination against white folks -- with affirmative action, contract set-asides and quotas -- to advance black applicants over white applicants.
Churches, foundations, civic groups, schools and individuals all over America have donated time and money to support soup kitchens, adult education, day care, retirement and nursing homes for blacks.
We hear the grievances. Where is the gratitude?
Barack talks about new "ladders of opportunity" for blacks.
Let him go to Altoona and Johnstown, and ask the white kids in Catholic schools how many were visited lately by Ivy League recruiters handing out scholarships for "deserving" white kids.
Is white America really responsible for the fact that the crime and incarceration rates for African-Americans are seven times those of white America? Is it really white America's fault that illegitimacy in the African-American community has hit 70 percent and the black dropout rate from high schools in some cities has reached 50 percent?
Is that the fault of white America or, first and foremost, a failure of the black community itself?
As for racism, its ugliest manifestation is in interracial crime, and especially interracial crimes of violence. Is Barack Obama aware that while white criminals choose black victims 3 percent of the time, black criminals choose white victims 45 percent of the time?
Is Barack aware that black-on-white rapes are 100 times more common than the reverse, that black-on-white robberies were 139 times as common in the first three years of this decade as the reverse?
We have all heard ad nauseam from the Rev. Al about Tawana Brawley, the Duke rape case and Jena. And all turned out to be hoaxes. But about the epidemic of black assaults on whites that are real, we hear nothing.
Sorry, Barack, some of us have heard it all before, about 40 years and 40 trillion tax dollars ago.
Pat Buchanan is a founding editor of The American Conservative magazine, and the author of many books including State of Emergency: The Third World Invasion and Conquest of America .
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