Is the UPC a Den of Incest (Growth Within)?

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Rico

Maybe your family spends most of its time running each other down, but my family doesn't do that.

You aren't sitting at their table! You don't know what they are saying when you aren't there.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

You aren't sitting at their table! You don't know what they are saying when you aren't there.

I can safely say I know my family better than you do.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

In addition, there are people wanting to bring about a change. You can't do this if all you do is talk about what's positive.

Even in my job, we have to address what's wrong in order to bring about change. If we don't, things get worse instead of better, yet it seems that all we talk about are the negative things. When we step back and look at the changes, however, that's when we see the reality of our efforts.

You are exactly right and even folks that work at WEC know there are big problems they need to fix and they are working on them. Change always shakes things up!

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Rico

I can safely say I know my family better than you do.

Just messin' with you!

[Rico]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Just messin' with you!

I know. That's why I started laughing.

[HeavenlyOne]

Originally Posted by Rico

Maybe your family spends most of its time running each other down, but my family doesn't do that.

Did you read what I said? How does talking about the cousin in jail and why he's there equate to running him down??

Maybe your family doesn't have problems. Mine does. We address them and aren't afraid to do so.

[HeavenlyOne]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

You are exactly right and even folks that work at WEC know there are big problems they need to fix and they are working on them. Change always shakes things up!

I look forward to the changes, as the UPC is all I know and I don't want to leave it.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

Did you read what I said? How does talking about the cousin in jail and why he's there equate to running him down??

Maybe your family doesn't have problems. Mine does. We address them and aren't afraid to do so.

No, I didn't read anything you said. I made it all up. What a dumb question!


What goes on on these forums isn't a discussion in search of solutions. It's mostly accusations about this, that, and the other. There is very little constructive discussion going on.

[Mrs. LPW]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

Did you read what I said? How does talking about the cousin in jail and why he's there equate to running him down??

Maybe your family doesn't have problems. Mine does. We address them and aren't afraid to do so.

Talking about problems is one thing...

You must not have read some of the things I've read.

[HeavenlyOne]

Originally Posted by Rico

No, I didn't read anything you said. I made it all up. What a dumb question!


What goes on on these forums isn't a discussion in search of solutions. It's mostly accusations about this, that, and the other. There is very little constructive discussion going on.

I agree that there have been comments that haven't been constructive, but I've personally seen more negative comments directed at those who left the UPC because of the problems than the negative comments about the UPC alone.