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05-28-2008, 03:43 PM
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Re: Ex-Bush Spokesman: Propaganda Used to Push War
Notice no one here appears as concerned with the implications regarding the war and this administration as they are about finding fault with the messenger. Again...Bush get's a free pass by religious conservatives. What if this is true?
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05-28-2008, 03:48 PM
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Re: Ex-Bush Spokesman: Propaganda Used to Push War
Nah GH, it's just the same old, same old. And it's not like anyone hasn't ever said this before. True or not his saying this now is greed alone. Money, money, money. And there is plenty of fault to be found with any administration. Same results, different reasons.
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05-28-2008, 03:50 PM
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Re: Ex-Bush Spokesman: Propaganda Used to Push War
And I of course am going to go to Wal-Mart and buy this book...............NOT!!
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He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
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05-28-2008, 03:51 PM
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Re: Ex-Bush Spokesman: Propaganda Used to Push War
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Originally Posted by cneasttx
Nah GH, it's just the same old, same old. And it's not like anyone hasn't ever said this before. True or not his saying this now is greed alone. Money, money, money. And there is plenty of fault to be found with any administration. Same results, different reasons.
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So even if this guy's telling the truth the Bush Administration should get a free pass on this? C'mon...this is far more corrupt than President Clinton trying to cover up an affair.
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05-28-2008, 03:54 PM
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Re: Ex-Bush Spokesman: Propaganda Used to Push War
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So even if this guy's telling the truth the Bush Administration get a free pass on this? C'mon...this is far more corrupt than President Clinton trying to cover up an affair.
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Nope, not what I am saying at all. This book will probably not change anyone's mind about the administration. And another thing is why publish this now? Who is he hoping offers him a job?
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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05-28-2008, 04:03 PM
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Re: Ex-Bush Spokesman: Propaganda Used to Push War
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Originally Posted by cneasttx
Nope, not what I am saying at all. This book will probably not change anyone's mind about the administration. And another thing is why publish this now? Who is he hoping offers him a job?
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I think it has more to do with revealing the facts behind the war so that the people have more information in the coming election. Do we essentially keep the current machine and course of action or do we change direction?
Of course, the press secretary was given warm words and praise when leaving and all was nice and friendly. Now this guy is going to be painted as disgruntled. It's like when a controlling pastor looses control of a saint who decides to speak up about something not right...suddenly that saint is just "not himself".
Republicans will vote Republican regardless of the deception and lies of the Bush Administration...and those voting Democratic already know the war was based on lies and fabrications. This will only effect undecideds and independents.
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05-28-2008, 07:01 PM
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Re: Ex-Bush Spokesman: Propaganda Used to Push War
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Originally Posted by Grasshopper
I think it has more to do with revealing the facts behind the war so that the people have more information in the coming election. Do we essentially keep the current machine and course of action or do we change direction?
Of course, the press secretary was given warm words and praise when leaving and all was nice and friendly. Now this guy is going to be painted as disgruntled. It's like when a controlling pastor looses control of a saint who decides to speak up about something not right...suddenly that saint is just "not himself".
Republicans will vote Republican regardless of the deception and lies of the Bush Administration...and those voting Democratic already know the war was based on lies and fabrications. This will only effect undecideds and independents.
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The media has so brainwashed the public that we all believe this now??? Truth no longer has any weigh against the third column.
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05-28-2008, 07:04 PM
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Re: Ex-Bush Spokesman: Propaganda Used to Push War
Noooo..republicans ( myself anyway ) will vote republican because thats the way we believe. You know , some here feel UPC is not the way to go, and some do.....I feel the conservative way is the way I prefer to go..All of your arguments are plausable at best....easily argued from both sides with neither side having the ability to win....I could disprove most of what you spew on here, and you may could do the same with me..but when it comes down to us having no more post and rebuttles it simply comes down to what we (individually) believe we want for government...its our opinion...nothing more, nothing less......Bush has done no worse job than carter, clinton or anyone else for that matter. Bush didn't ask for this, he responded in a manner he felt best....
its funny we being full of the Holy Ghost and living for God will be first to proclaim we are not perfect yet we expect a man with more pressure than we will ever be faced with to be perfect.
BTW...they just announced that Scott admitted his editor re wrote much of the book he released...imagine that
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05-28-2008, 10:14 PM
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Re: Ex-Bush Spokesman: Propaganda Used to Push War
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Originally Posted by crakjak
The media has so brainwashed the public that we all believe this now??? Truth no longer has any weigh against the third column.
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Bro notice something...you're not able to even conceive that the Bush Administration perpetrated a war of choice based on false pretenses. When one understands how far back plans to invade Iraq go (the first Bush Presidency) it becomes obvious that this was the brainchild of Paul Wolfowitz. What if Scott is telling the truth? I mean...if he were...what would you expect the White House and the Administration to say?
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05-28-2008, 10:25 PM
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Re: Ex-Bush Spokesman: Propaganda Used to Push War
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Originally Posted by scotty
Noooo..republicans ( myself anyway ) will vote republican because thats the way we believe. You know , some here feel UPC is not the way to go, and some do.....I feel the conservative way is the way I prefer to go..All of your arguments are plausable at best....easily argued from both sides with neither side having the ability to win....I could disprove most of what you spew on here, and you may could do the same with me..but when it comes down to us having no more post and rebuttles it simply comes down to what we (individually) believe we want for government...its our opinion...nothing more, nothing less......Bush has done no worse job than carter, clinton or anyone else for that matter. Bush didn't ask for this, he responded in a manner he felt best....
its funny we being full of the Holy Ghost and living for God will be first to proclaim we are not perfect yet we expect a man with more pressure than we will ever be faced with to be perfect.
BTW...they just announced that Scott admitted his editor re wrote much of the book he released...imagine that
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I understand what you're saying and you're right. But when it comes to President Bush....something went wrong shortly after 9/11 and suddenly we were on a very dark road. My wife and I both expressed how things just felt strange. I don't trust Bush. I firmly believe that when Bush is out of power people will come out of the woodwork to tell the truth about this Presidency, people you'll be shocked to hear say such things. And I think it will demonstrate how blind and manipulated so many of us have been by the political "conservatives" (who are really just neo-fascists pretending to be conservatives).
When someone claims to be Pro-Life and Anti-Gay marriage we zone out and accept them without hesitation. Bro...I fear those are just buttons they push to mobilize the robots if you know what I mean.
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