Ex-Bush Spokesman: Propaganda Used to Push War

[DividedThigh]

grass why dont you just debate the issue with people without gettin all graphically personal, sorry bro but you have no credibility, it is obvious to all you have an agenda, so there you go, dt

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Grasshopper

Riiigggghhhht. Bush is Jesus and McClellan is Judas. Give me a break. You're so blind. Just wait...people, sound conservatives, will come out of the woodwork on this one and you'll look real bad. Just wait. You'll find that the only one being sold for 30 peices of silver is the truth.

Go ahead and defend defend defend this Administration. Bush isn't no Regan and as soon as he doesn't have the power to destroy political adversaries and people feel safe enough they'll come clean.

And Pressing...you'll have egg all over your face.

I had eggs for breakfast, but I didn't rub them on my face. The Omega 3s are a little pricey to waste.

I don't think I said that Bush was Jesus, last time I checked, and I didn't call McClellan Judas.

Viewing both interviews by Ari Fletcher, http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...ns_new_bo.html, and McClellan - it left me wondering what was up with McClellan.

The 30 pieces of silver were Michael Regan's words and not mine.

If we are going to discuss this I would like to put out the clips, links and info in order to make our own judgment.

You've gotten a lot bolder and ruder in your posting since you changed your posting name. I'm going to change mine to "Hysterical" and see what I can do with that!

[DividedThigh]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I had eggs for breakfast, but I didn't rub them on my face. The Omega 3s are a little pricey to waste.

I don't think I said that Bush was Jesus last time I checked and I didn't call McClellan Judas.

Viewing both interviews by Ari Fletcher, which I didn't post, and McClellan - it left me wondering what was up with McClellan.

The 30 pieces of silver were Michael Regan's words and not mine.

If we are going to discuss this I would like to put out the clips, links and info in order to make our own judgment.

You've gotten a lot bolder and ruder in your posting since you changed your posting name. I'm going to change mine to "Hysterical" and see what I can do with that!

make it happen press, dt

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by DividedThigh

make it happen press, dt

I'm in the mood for that today - believe me. Our air conditioner is freezing up and our service guy isn't calling back!!!!!! Grrrrrrrr!

Originally Posted by DividedThigh

grass why dont you just debate the issue with people without gettin all graphically personal, sorry bro but you have no credibility, it is obvious to all you have an agenda, so there you go, dt

I’m not meaning to get real personal. I’m just poking a little fun while pointing out something very real…people are really dying over this bro.

And as for agendas…everyone has an agenda. Some have an agenda to find the truth and make sure others know about what’s really happening. Others have an agenda to cover it up and make the party look good…no matter what. While you may freely say I have an agenda…we’ll see how many serious conservatives come out of the woodwork after Bush is out of office and speak about what they knew but couldn’t tell us for fear of being politically destroyed. Eventually the light will shine through and it will be revealed to all whose agenda was speaking the truth. There will be mounting facts, details, and testimonies about something this big bro. This isn’t some affair with a woman in the Oval Office…this is a war. Pre-emptive. Pre-meditated. Evidence trumped up and fabricated. This is war profiteering and 21st Century imperialism. This is a patriot act that threatens Constitutional liberties. And yes…I have an agenda, to know and tell the truth. And I don’t believe the Bush regime is telling us the truth. It all just doesn’t add up. The more and more that comes to light the more and more it becomes evident…we were lied to about Iraq because they had an agenda. So I admit to my agenda. What’s your agenda? To cover for the Republicans? To cover for Bush? To keep us little religious minions marching to the voting booth pulling the lever for the “R’s”?

I also have a secondary agenda. To expose the blind obedience and loyalty among us to a political party. A loyalty that will compromise all reason, common sense, and honesty. And in order to do that I plan on revisiting this subject with you and others…not to embarrass you…but in the hopes that you’re shaken so badly at all this that you choose bold and prophetic honesty over party loyalty after you finally realize how they’ve used us all as pawns. I don’t want to make you a “Democrat” or anything like that…but I do want to help you realize that yes…you’ve been a pawn in their game so that you never will be again.

I’m a “throw the bums out” voter. If I’m not happy with the Democrats, I assure you I’ll be here confronting the Democratic loyalists who are mindlessly loyal to the “D’s” and being their pawns. I don’t trust the Democrats or the Republicans when it comes down to it. I think right now the D’s are fighting to reveal the truth for their own political advancement…but that means they’re desperate to tell us what’s happening to win our trust….after the first term I firmly believe the Democrats will be hiding their little agendas and the R’s will be fighting to reveal the truth about it and win our trust to win elections. It’s like a cycle, a tide, an ebb and a flow. A pendulum that swings to the right and then to the left.

We’re Christians. We shouldn’t be Democrats or Republicans really. Because that entails giving loyalty to corrupt powers of this world. And I’ve seen good men lie, lie, lie to make their party of choice look good, yes, even over the pulpit. Bro…that sickens me and makes me so angry I feel like strangling someone. Because as long as we are defined by party and conservative or liberal politics we twist the truth and lie to advance that agenda….and we fail the kingdom of God.

Oh well…bro…them’s my thoughts. Time will reveal the truth. If I’m wrong I’ll admit it. But my question is…if this Administration is proven to be full of corruption and deception…will you?

I don’t believe a word Bush says…you do. I want him exposed. You want him protected. Both of us are sincere. But only one of us is right. It’s not about me being a “Democrat”. If it were the Martian Party I’d be behind them to uproot this administration to find the truth.

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I had eggs for breakfast, but I didn't rub them on my face. The Omega 3s are a little pricey to waste.

I don't think I said that Bush was Jesus, last time I checked, and I didn't call McClellan Judas.

Viewing both interviews by Ari Fletcher, http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...ns_new_bo.html, and McClellan - it left me wondering what was up with McClellan.

The 30 pieces of silver were Michael Regan's words and not mine.

If we are going to discuss this I would like to put out the clips, links and info in order to make our own judgment.

I’ve seen it on TV. I think Ari is running interference for the Administration. He’s a loyalist and he plans on remaining involved in politics, his career is on the line. There will be more and more “McClellan’s” and conservatives come forward and eventually it will just look ridiculous that all these men were poopooed and accused to be discredited by the conservative bloggosphere. I think the conservative movement and conservative religious has been hijacked by right wing fascists. The only conservatives I still relate to are Buchanan and sometimes Newt. The conservatism I would tend to lean toward isn’t this modern radical neo-conservatism that’s so popular…but paleo-conservatism. It’s almost like a race to see who’s more conservative…almost to the point of selling all of America on the open market or anarchism. I don’t relate to it. I feel the Republican Party isn’t the party I used to look up to. Oh…the Democrats aren’t that much better really. But they will serve as an excellent tool to punish the Republican Party in the hopes that it wakes up and really thinks beyond the gimmicks and marketing schemes to swindle us out of what little money we have while they sellout to companies who are just raping the American people.

Oh well. I know you’re sincere. But I’m convinced that as more comes to light you’ll be found sincerely wrong. I pray you’re right. Because if you are wrong…the church and America are in far worse shape because of this President than most are willing to admit.

Time will tell.

[DividedThigh]

ok grass you keep doing whatever it is you do, still love ya, dt

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Grasshopper

I’ve seen it on TV. I think Ari is running interference for the Administration. He’s a loyalist and he plans on remaining involved in politics, his career is on the line. There will be more and more “McClellan’s” and conservatives come forward and eventually it will just look ridiculous that all these men were poopooed and accused to be discredited by the conservative bloggosphere. I think the conservative movement and conservative religious has been hijacked by right wing fascists. The only conservatives I still relate to are Buchanan and sometimes Newt. The conservatism I would tend to lean toward isn’t this modern radical neo-conservatism that’s so popular…but paleo-conservatism. It’s almost like a race to see who’s more conservative…almost to the point of selling all of America on the open market or anarchism. I don’t relate to it. I feel the Republican Party isn’t the party I used to look up to. Oh…the Democrats aren’t that much better really. But they will serve as an excellent tool to punish the Republican Party in the hopes that it wakes up and really thinks beyond the gimmicks and marketing schemes to swindle us out of what little money we have while they sellout to companies who are just raping the American people.

Oh well. I know you’re sincere. But I’m convinced that as more comes to light you’ll be found sincerely wrong. I pray you’re right. Because if you are wrong…the church and America are in far worse shape because of this President than most are willing to admit.

Time will tell.

Did you want someone that "wasn't" loyal to work for the Administration they served?

God will have a church regardless of Welfare, SS, government, your neighbor, etc. It doesn't make any difference to me.

I'm praying for my officials as the Bible instructs and voting so I don't look foolish if I gripe about what I don't like.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Grasshopper

Notice no one here appears as concerned with the implications regarding the war and this administration as they are about finding fault with the messenger. Again...Bush get's a free pass by religious conservatives. What if this is true?

It's not about President Bush is getting a free pass by religious conservatives.
There are some Christians who are unhappy with the Bush presidency.
It's just that a book is out, in an election year, claiming to be an expose of the current President. How much credibility could anyone attach to that?

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Sam

It's not about President Bush is getting a free pass by religious conservatives.
There are some Christians who are unhappy with the Bush presidency.
It's just that a book is out, in an election year, claiming to be an expose of the current President. How much credibility could anyone attach to that?

So true and he is talking about "possibly" voting for Obama. He seems bitter to me.