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Old 06-02-2008, 01:42 PM
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Re: Ex-Bush Spokesman: Propaganda Used to Push War

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My dear and precious friend. May I suggest that you step out from the middle of the spin zone created by Fox News and the conservative radio personalities and be the objective person that you are?!

I know that you have been listening to folks from Limbaugh to Hannity in order to get an understanding of McClellan's motives; however, they and their cohorts have been tainted by their own motives to ever give anyone with a different opinion, story or idea a fair chance.

McClellan was only paid $75,000 for this book. People have called him greedy and made accusations that he was only looking at dollar signs when he wrote that book. Clearly, the evidence proved that it wasn't about the money.

I have sat and listened to him OBJECTIVELY and afterward I thought that since I had no proof to condemn the man of betraying the President and lying about things that he witnessed first hand and wrote in his book, then I was in no way going to say he lied and make other false accusations against him.

All those pundits and slick-tongued radio bullies have contributed to good people buying into their lies, which they have carefully formulated and manipulated to resemble truth. In other words, they have deceived many by repeating their lies over and over again that people started to believe the spin.

Actually, it was obvious to me that McClellan still cared a great deal for Bush, because each time he has been interviewed this past week he defended and stated that Bush was mislead by those he trusted in his administration.
I believe that since we'll give an account for every idle word...those who repeat the lies of the "radio bullies" are going to be found in a very sad state before the Lord. Same for those who do not take caution regarding the liberals and their propaganda. The best position is to wait and find out.
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Old 06-02-2008, 01:46 PM
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Finally you said something I agree with , but I think it may be those who are voting for the extremely liberal big change character.

Show me a person who is liberal in his political thinking and I'll show you a person who is liberal in his walk with Christ.
Anyone voting for either of the two leading parties in America are compromising their Christianity. Both parities lie and extort. Both parties are morally bankrupt. Both parties are guilty of grave sins against God.

The only true "Christian response" is to give this world's politics to this world and we live entirely kingdom minded. We don't need the lying and corrupt Republicans or the shreaking, liberal Democrats.

We do best to focus entirely on the Kingdom of God and call both parties on their sins. But most Christians don't have the guts. They worship one of the two parties.
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Old 06-02-2008, 02:09 PM
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Re: Ex-Bush Spokesman: Propaganda Used to Push War

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I wasn't offended in the least. I normally check my sources before I post. lol

And we will have peace as long as you agree with me.

Just kidding!!!!!

I'm out too. Supposed to be working today!! lol
When I stated that I had to excuse myself from this thread it wasn't because I had to go do something else, it was because I had made a promise to avoid arguing about politics. I thought that if I were to stick around, it may have ended up with you posting videos and articles bashing Obama and me doing the same with McCain.

BTW, have you heard? I don't support Obama, McCain or Clinton...I decided to stick with my original choice for President - Ron Paul! I know that you may view my voting for Paul as a throw away vote, but I firmly believe he would make a far better leader than the other three.
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Old 06-02-2008, 02:22 PM
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When I stated that I had to excuse myself from this thread it wasn't because I had to go do something else, it was because I had made a promise to avoid arguing about politics. I thought that if I were to stick around, it may have ended up with you posting videos and articles bashing Obama and me doing the same with McCain.

BTW, have you heard? I don't support Obama, McCain or Clinton...I decided to stick with my original choice for President - Ron Paul! I know that you may view my voting for Paul as a throw away vote, but I believe he would make a far better leader than the other three.
The fact is I don’t think any candidate is uniquely Christian. The thing to consider is each individual’s policies and how they affect you and your family. I’m thinking about voting Constitution Party, Chuck Baldwin. But Baldwin stands no realistic chance of winning. Out of the two contenders Obama’s policies will be far better for my family than McCain’s. We have this tendency of saying, “If you don’t vote like me, you’re not a Christian.” I think that’s childish. We have to know the policies, the actual policies, how they will effect us, and vote for whose policies will best serve our families. Most Christians only think about two issues and don’t have a clue if that candidate’s actual policies will throw their family under the bus or something.
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Old 06-02-2008, 02:25 PM
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When I stated that I had to excuse myself from this thread it wasn't because I had to go do something else, it was because I had made a promise to avoid arguing about politics. I thought that if I were to stick around, it may have ended up with you posting videos and articles bashing Obama and me doing the same with McCain.

BTW, have you heard? I don't support Obama, McCain or Clinton...I decided to stick with my original choice for President - Ron Paul! I know that you may view my voting for Paul as a throw away vote, but I firmly believe he would make a far better leader than the other three.
I didn't agree with all of Ron Paul on foreign policy, so I couldn't have voted for him. I've met and talked with him in person and he is a wonderful and attentive gentleman. He would have made a grand president, but people are worried about security, which BTW, is something Obama nor Clinton can bring.

And you are right - it's best not to post politics if you argue about it. Religion, also, for that matter. lol
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Old 06-02-2008, 02:26 PM
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The fact is I don’t think any candidate is uniquely Christian. The thing to consider is each individual’s policies and how they affect you and your family. I’m thinking about voting Constitution Party, Chuck Baldwin. But Baldwin stands no realistic chance of winning. Out of the two contenders Obama’s policies will be far better for my family than McCain’s. We have this tendency of saying, “If you don’t vote like me, you’re not a Christian.” I think that’s childish. We have to know the policies, the actual policies, how they will effect us, and vote for whose policies will best serve our families. Most Christians only think about two issues and don’t have a clue if that candidate’s actual policies will throw their family under the bus or something.
I'm voting for a President not a pastor.
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Old 06-02-2008, 02:34 PM
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I didn't agree with all of Ron Paul on foreign policy, so I couldn't have voted for him. I've met and talked with him in person and he is a wonderful and attentive gentleman. He would have made a grand president, but people are worried about security, which BTW, is something Obama nor Clinton can bring.

And you are right - it's best not to post politics if you argue about it. Religion, also, for that matter. lol
Don't tell me, you think the US should police the planet?
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I'm voting for a President not a pastor.
Amen. We vote for the man who we think has the best policies and move on hoping they will do their best and not cause too much damage. Democrat or Republican....neither is more righteous than the other. And sadly, while the Republicans appear to stand for things I believe in on paper, they don't act on any of those beliefs.
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Don't tell me, you think the US should police the planet?
How can you ask that when you know countries depend on the USA to bail them out?

Anyway, had fun posting, but I am log overdue on posting today!

Gotta run!
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Old 06-02-2008, 02:36 PM
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press, dont do it, some of these guys think we can talk the muslims into peace, they dont get it, but you keep tryin, dt
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