CC I would never make that sort of broad generalization about people that I have never met or know very little about. My whole point agrees with your line about seeing the evidence. I just want to see facts. It is not enough for me to have a faceless group of people tell me that he votes the most liberal. I wanted to see the actual votes and the actual issues and see the criteria and determine for myself whether I agree or disagree with his votes.
According to the rating system, they tell you that they are not grading him as it relates to the issues, but instead on how his votes compare to other politicians. In this day of partisan politics that is not enough for me. I had to see the actual votes and the actual issues.
If we go by votes in the Senate, Obama and Hillary look like they agree on most issues.
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For example...just to illustrate my point. This is the first vote that is listed:
Establish a Senate Office of Public Integrity to handle ethics complaints against senators. January 18. (27-71) C-1
Obama's vote of Yes is in keeping with what they consider to be the votes of Liberal politicians so that is one in the "negative" ledger.
to be fair here is another
Agree to final passage of a bill implementing the 9/11 commission's homeland-security recommendations, including a provision extending collective bargaining rights to federal security screeners. March 13. (60-38) L-3
it was that last part that would have hamstrung the Homeland Security Department. and this idiot voted for it because of liberal idiology and political silliness.
Obama is a whacked out liberal who thinks LBJ and Jimmy "the idiot" Carter were great presidents!
Obama needs to be picking up dog poop in the local park, not running for president!
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Agree to final passage of a bill implementing the 9/11 commission's homeland-security recommendations, including a provision extending collective bargaining rights to federal security screeners. March 13. (60-38) L-3
it was that last part that would have hamstrung the Homeland Security Department. and this idiot voted for it because of liberal idiology and political silliness.
Obama is a whacked out liberal who thinks LBJ and Jimmy "the idiot" Carter were great presidents!
Obama needs to be picking up dog poop in the local park, not running for president!
You're too much, Ferd! It's good to have you back! You've been missed.
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Ferd I just don't understand what you mean when you say things like "making us lose the war in Iraq". That was bungled without help from Obama or anyone else for that matter. I don't even want to mention Afghanistan.
I just want to have all the facts for myself. What the National Journal considers a liberal position based on the fact the "conservatives" are opposed can be misleading.
It's just that this White House has destroyed my trust in it to a great enough extent that things are not as simple as they used to be.
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Support non-embryonic-stem-cell research. April 11. (70-28; 60 votes required because of a unanimous consent agreement) C-2
He voted no.
you know why? because he wants embrionic stemcell research.
Forget the scientific fact that non-embrionic stemcell research is actually being USED to treat people and the other kind (you know, the kind that kills a HUMAN BEING) has not been proven successfull at all.
LIBERAL ABOVE GOOD SENSE!
But Barak wants change and "Changey-Change-Change" is the all important issue!
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All of Clintons friends are dead (ie Vince Foster)
McCains "friends" and by that I mean the folk he has hung with for the last 20 years or so, tend to not be guilty of BOMING THE PENTEGON.
Ferd here is a repost of some of what I said earlier:
My point is that I am much more interested in his views than in his "connections". Some of the connections have been tenuous and incidental at best (like with Ayers), but that has been so hyped that it seems to preempt real conversation on his views. Everytime I hear Hannity rave for 30 minutes about that instead of about Obama, it makes him seem less credible and more partisan or vindictive. I want to know about his views and how he has governed and would govern.
He and Ayers are two people prominent in the Chicago political scene and have served on boards together and been at the same functions... Ayers did despicable things when Obama was in short pants (no offense dt . No one has demonstrated any more significant relationship than that.
I just am saying that when you begin to make mountains out of mole hills, people begin to wonder if there really are as many actual mountains as you may claim. Like I said I am not a supporter of any at this point but I am tired of politics and talking heads as usual.
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Either the United States will destroy ignorance, or ignorance will destroy the United States. – W.E.B. DuBois
My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. 
It's good to have you back! You've been missed.
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