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Old 09-23-2008, 02:58 PM
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What part of man goes to hell?

What part of man goes to hell? spirit? soul?
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Re: What part of man goes to hell?

...his consciousness
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Re: What part of man goes to hell?

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...his consciousness

So how is a conscious torment in flames?
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Re: What part of man goes to hell?

Does it really matter which part? I don't want any part of me to go to hell.
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Re: What part of man goes to hell?

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So how is a conscious torment in flames?
He/she is being tormented because they actually realize they are in torment and in an eternity without God. A soul cannot exist without a consciousness.
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Re: What part of man goes to hell?

The whole man is composed of body, soul and spirit. The body is the physical created portion of man which returns to the dust. The spirit is the part of man which is the decision making part of man. The soul is the real you and the seat of consciousness in man. What we do in our lifetime will determine the eternal fate of our soul. If we are led by our spirit alive and conscious to Gods Spirit we will reap eternal life. If we are led by the flesh we will reap damnation and eternal separation from God.

The spirit returns to God upon physical death and the soul either goes to the place of torment or to be in the presence of God. The soul in not complete without the body that is why in the resurrection we will receive a glorified body. The unjust will be resurrected at the last judgment to be cast into the lake of fire.

So much more and with time I will try to bring scriptures to shed light on this topic. So much to say so little time.

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He/she is being tormented because they actually realize they are in torment and in an eternity without God. A soul cannot exist without a consciousness.
Right, so my next question is does it have to have a body to be tormented? A soul has no sensation a body, right?
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Right, so my next question is does it have to have a body to be tormented? A soul has no sensation a body, right?
The soul has realization. You think the torment is the fire and brimstone and darkness? No, the true torment is the realization through consciousness that they are now in an eternity without Almighty God...and the hope of ever touching him again.
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Re: What part of man goes to hell?

Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground (body), and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life (spirit); and man became a living soul.

All other animals had breath but not God consciousness. Only man was made a spiritual being with Gods image and eternal soul. Man through his spirit has creativity and decision making capabilities. He is not just an instinctive animal.

Job 33:4 The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life.

Job 32:8 But there is a spirit in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding.

Ecc 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

Psa 119:109 My soul is continually in my hand: yet do I not forget thy law.

Psa 30:2 O LORD my God, I cried unto thee, and thou hast healed me.
Psa 30:3 O LORD, thou hast brought up my soul from the grave: thou hast kept me alive, that I should not go down to the pit.

Psa 34:22 The LORD redeemeth the soul of his servants: and none of them that trust in him shall be desolate.

Just a few verses for now no explanation though.

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The soul has realization. You think the torment is the fire and brimstone and darkness? No, the true torment is the realization through consciousness that they are now in an eternity without Almighty God...and the hope of ever touching him again.
Appreciate you input!

So do you believe in literal fire of hell or is symbolic of the torment of conscious?
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