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Old 12-08-2008, 08:53 PM
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Re: WHAAT!! Clarence Thomas Push 4 Probe Against O

Newsmax also has a new article about the Supreme Court's decision about Obama's eligibility.

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Supreme Court Won't Review Obama's Eligibility for Presidency
Monday, December 8, 2008 11:43 AM

WASHINGTON – The Supreme Court has turned down an emergency appeal from a New Jersey man who says President-elect Barack Obama is ineligible to be president because he was a British subject at birth.


The court did not comment on its order Monday rejecting the call by Leo Donofrio of East Brunswick, N.J., to intervene in the presidential election.
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Old 12-08-2008, 09:53 PM
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Not so fast. The Supreme Court declined to hear the case of dual citizenship. However, there are still multiple lawsuits in the works that argue that Obama is not an American citizen because he was born in Kenya.

Obama has not produced his birth certificate but for a badly forged secondary document said by the unknowing to be his birth certificate.

WHY??? Why won't he put the matter to rest? Where is the judgment and unity in letting this matter ferment and stew?
Don't forget about the most important and condemning aspect of this issue: his Indonesian citizenship.....this is what the mainstream media is still glossing over.
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Old 12-08-2008, 11:16 PM
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Newsmax (a conservative new source) says that Obama's birth certificate shows he was born in the US.

Here is an excerpt from Newmax:

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Obama Was Born in the United States
Monday, December 8, 2008 11:30 AM

By: Ronald Kessler

“The certificate has all the elements the State Department requires for proving citizenship to obtain a U.S. passport,” FactCheck.org, headed by respected former Wall Street Journal reporter Brooks Jackson, concluded.

According to the State Department, that includes “your full name, the full name of your parent(s), date and place of birth, sex, date the birth record was filed, and the seal or other certification of the official custodian of such records.”

That led to claims by conspiracy theorists that the document shown to FactCheck.org was fake. However, on Oct. 31, the Hawaii Department of Health issued a press release saying that Chiyome Fukino, director of Hawaii’s Department of Health, along with Alvin Onaka, the registrar of vital statistics, had “personally seen and verified that Hawaii’s State Department of Public Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.”

Fukino told the Honolulu Advertiser that her department issued the press release after being barraged by calls about the issue, including some received by state officials at home in the middle of the night.

“This has gotten ridiculous,” said Fukino, a medical doctor.

Aside from that official verification of Obama’s birth in Hawaii, back on Aug. 31, 1962, the Honolulu Advertiser ran an announcement of his birth.

“Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalaniaaole Hwy., son, Aug. 4,” the announcement said


This same article explains how the rumor got started about Obama not being born in the US.
Thanks for trying TK Burk but I think their factual reporting lacks much. I don't have time to back up what I say with the proofs but others can.

1. The certificate that was on the internet has been shown by forensic examiners to be a forgery with detailing that allows us lay people to understand how they arrived at the conclusions they did.

2. Obama's sister who was not born in Hawaii likewise has this same type of document that was posted on the internet because of a loophole in Hawaii law which allows foreign births to register with the state in particular circumstances.

3. Note the very specific language Hawaii used when "confirming" the actual birth certificate. They did not say it was from Hawaii. They did not say it was authentic.

4. The birth announcement was likely garnered from registered births given the scant detail. Foreign births could be registered under specific circumstances "in accordance with state policies and procedures." The announcement does not say that Obama was born in Hawaii.

5. Why doesn't it bother the media that Obama hasn't released his actual birth certificate (with doctor and hospital on it); his school records; his medical information?

His selective service registration? Oh wait! It was found to be FRAUDULENT! I guess that is why it wasn't released. You think?

AND FOR THE RECORD- The article is nonsense as to how the rumor got started. Obama can have his official birth certificate released at any time he chooses. (The public can't get it any other way). But he would rather spend $800,000 on three law firms to fight a dozen lawsuits about the issue. WHY?
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Thanks for trying TK Burk but I think their factual reporting lacks much. I don't have time to back up what I say with the proofs but others can.

1. The certificate that was on the internet has been shown by forensic examiners to be a forgery with detailing that allows us lay people to understand how they arrived at the conclusions they did.

2. Obama's sister who was not born in Hawaii likewise has this same type of document that was posted on the internet because of a loophole in Hawaii law which allows foreign births to register with the state in particular circumstances.

3. Note the very specific language Hawaii used when "confirming" the actual birth certificate. They did not say it was from Hawaii. They did not say it was authentic.

4. The birth announcement was likely garnered from registered births given the scant detail. Foreign births could be registered under specific circumstances "in accordance with state policies and procedures." The announcement does not say that Obama was born in Hawaii.

5. Why doesn't it bother the media that Obama hasn't released his actual birth certificate (with doctor and hospital on it); his school records; his medical information?

His selective service registration? Oh wait! It was found to be FRAUDULENT! I guess that is why it wasn't released. You think?

AND FOR THE RECORD- The article is nonsense as to how the rumor got started. Obama can have his official birth certificate released at any time he chooses. (The public can't get it any other way). But he would rather spend $800,000 on three law firms to fight a dozen lawsuits about the issue. WHY?
Cool your rumor jets a bit. I didn't write the article. I only posted it!!

And as far as what is right and what is wrong; the US Supreme Court refused to hear this case, so it sure appears THEY didn't like your particular view either...oh, but wait, you don't "HAVE TIME" to "BACK UP" what you're saying, right?

Have a fun day....
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Cool your rumor jets a bit. I didn't write the article. I only posted it!!

And as far as what is right and what is wrong; the US Supreme Court refused to hear this case, so it sure appears THEY didn't like your particular view either...oh, but wait, you don't "HAVE TIME" to "BACK UP" what you're saying, right?

Have a fun day....
TK Burk- I am sorry. I didn't mean to suggest that you wrote that piece of poor journalism that assumed much more than what was said by Hawaiin officials.

I hate not having time to reference what I write. But I made specific points that I would be interested in anyone finding a fact to the contrary.

The Supreme Court has another conference meeting this Friday concerning a second lawsuit that is somewhat similar, but better-drafted and has a cleaner procedural history behind it.

There are others in the pipeline. It's not over yet.

See the latest news about the various cases at www.theobamafile.com
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