Insult Islam, get sent to prison?

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Amen!

But you also don't have to allow your family's ears to be the dumping ground for uncouth preachers who don't have an ounce of respect for you or the people they're preaching to. Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. If you'll use those curse words... you'll use others. Preaching is a sacred responsibility. The words used should be chosen wisely, delivered with severity, and seasoned with grace.

I would also add, what if a visitor happens to be gay? My immediate supervisor is VERY gay (and been with the same 'partner' for the past 17 years). He is a good friend, albeit a "work" friend that I don't really associate outside of the building. Would I feel comfortable inviting him to church if my pastor talked like that?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

I would also add, what if a visitor happens to be gay? My immediate supervisor is VERY gay (and been with the same 'partner' for the past 17 years). He is a good friend, albeit a "work" friend that I don't really associate outside of the building. Would I feel comfortable inviting him to church if my pastor talked like that?

Bro, my family eventually left that church. It got so bad my wife and I thought twice before bringing any visitor... because we didn't want them turned from the truth before they could feel the Holy Ghost. It was really disheartening. Of course, the guy billed himself as a firebrand conservative. I saw him as an overbearing wacko lacking wisdom and grace.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Christian men and ministers should have a touch of class and be gentlemen who use words worthy of being called "Christian" when behind the pulpit. We don't take our ques from the gay community.

So we call them Sodomites because the bible does?

[Praxeas]

BTW...the thread is about Islam

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

So we call them Sodomites because the bible does?

Personally, I don't use inflammatory terms when I preach. I just call sin sin and warn of the consequences. I guess it's just the southern charm and gentility I was raised to have. I remember my mother saying, "Son, don't you ever forget that Christian men are gentlemen." She also taught me that people will judge me according to how I speak more than how I look. But, I guess if a pastor had to use a pejorative term while ranting against them, the term "Sodomites" would at least be biblical.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

BTW...the thread is about Islam

Oh... where can I find a recipe for a good veggie dip? They're having this "Super Bowl" party at work and everyone is supposed to bring something. If I make it halal I can say that I have not tried to hijack the thread.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

BTW...the thread is about Islam

You're right. I'm just using that as an example. If a preacher, speaker, or author were to intentionally use inflammatory rhetoric against the Islamic community that insights outrage, I think he bares some responsibility for those words.

I believe you should be free to say what you like... but one has to be responsible for the words one uses. Especially right now with the religious tension in the Muslim community. This is especially true for preachers and Christians, we're not talk-radio shock jocks, we're supposed to be preachers of truth and grace.

Just my take on things bro.

[ChTatum]

I have often used the word "homosexual", but taught our people that if open homosexuals come in, we still love the sinner while not condoning the sin. There is a difference.

Scripture teaches us how God feels about sin, that it separates us from relationship with Him, but yet we see Jesus loving the adulteress, while not condoning sin.

This is still the responsibility of those whe represent Jesus today.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by ChTatum

I have often used the word "homosexual", but taught our people that if open homosexuals come in, we still love the sinner while not condoning the sin. There is a difference.

Scripture teaches us how God feels about sin, that it separates us from relationship with Him, but yet we see Jesus loving the adulteress, while not condoning sin.

This is still the responsibility of those whe represent Jesus today.

And I would probably feel comfortable bring my friend to your church. Most, I am not.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Personally, I don't use inflammatory terms when I preach. I just call sin sin and warn of the consequences. I guess it's just the southern charm and gentility I was raised to have. I remember my mother saying, "Son, don't you ever forget that Christian men are gentlemen." She also taught me that people will judge me according to how I speak more than how I look. But, I guess if a pastor had to use a pejorative term while ranting against them, the term "Sodomites" would at least be biblical.

Well you said we don't get our ques from gays....so we don't call them gay because that would be taking a que from gays. We don't get it from the bible because the bible is inflammatory.

Call them "homo-sexuals"? were do we get that que from?

If they are fine with queers then queers is not inflammatory...what do we call them?!?!

BTW when I speak of burning fags I really am talking about a bundle of sticks on fire.