Very good reason to not do it. How much of what we and our doctrinal Fathers have fought for would be lost as if it were nothing?
MtD, for many here they are perfectly comfortable with that. For others, it is somewhat bothersome but a price they are willing to pay to get out from under the confines of traditional OP teaching on sanctification.
What ever the reason, the simple fact is most of those here who identify with the term Apostolic but who reject Apostolic churches will have children who may know the term, may understand some aspects of those "old" doctrines but they will in turn raise children who are part of mainstream christianity and many wont be any form of "pentecostal" at all.
we can all judge if that is a good thing or not. I suspect many will judge it to be a good thing. But this is the simple truth.
I am reminded of the old saying. Becareful what you wish for. You just might get it.
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a generation from now a lot of folk posting in this thread would be asking the following question:
What is the doctrine of Oneness?
I would hope it doesn't get that drastic,brother... but the way things are going in some circles, who knows?
Obviously there are some who think that as long as you "love the Lord", your doctrine doesn't matter that much.
However, compromising with those who dont preach the truth is not a good thing. I've seen people start down that road, and its sad to see where some of them have ended up.
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Daniel 12:3 And those who are wise shall shine like the brightness of the firmament; and those who turn many to righteousness, like the stars for ever.
I would hope it doesn't get that drastic,brother... but the way things are going in some circles, who knows?
Obviously there are some who think that as long as you "love the Lord", your doctrine doesn't matter that much.
However, compromising with those who dont preach the truth is not a good thing. I've seen people start down that road, and its sad to see where some of them have ended up.
I think it is exactly that drastic. ive had conversations with kids (parents present) that proves my point. Real life conversations not internet conversations.
but even here I suspect that if you were to get some of our friends to be honest, they will tell you I am accurate.
Many seem to be avoiding this subject like the plague.
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I think it is exactly that drastic. ive had conversations with kids (parents present) that proves my point. Real life conversations not internet conversations.
but even here I suspect that if you were to get some of our friends to be honest, they will tell you I am accurate.
Many seem to be avoiding this subject like the plague.
Yes I can see it. Many people always ask us where is the historical evidence for Oneness? Well after a while apparently many of its believers tired of persecution and hardship for its sake either gave in to Trinitarianism or perhaps departed from Christ altogether.
When its truth began to emerge in great power in the early 20th century it was seen as a great light! Now many years later it is seen as something you can simply step over like it were nothing at all to many in our Churches. Perhaps a lot of them have really never had the revelation so its not an issue to them
On the other hand I have been saying for about 29 years Oneness Churches have been running people off in multitudes because of some unscriptural dress code teachings. So it is partly their own fault if the joy of walking in truth is fading among them.
On the other hand I have been saying for about 29 years Oneness Churches have been running people off in multitudes because of some unscriptural dress code teachings. So it is partly their own fault if the joy of walking in truth is fading among them.
I see your point there. But people who are in Oneness, and take issue with the dress code issues, can find a Oneness church that doesnt have the dress code issues. In most such cases I've seen, there are several such churches believers could choose from, if they want to find them.
I dont think "dress code issues" should be an excuse for someone changing from Oneness to Trinitarian -- although some have made it an excuse. I just dont buy it though. When I see people leave Oneness churches and make wholesale doctrinal changes, I have to wonder how solid those people were on their doctrinal positions in the first place.
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Daniel 12:3 And those who are wise shall shine like the brightness of the firmament; and those who turn many to righteousness, like the stars for ever.
I see your point there. But people who are in Oneness, and take issue with the dress code issues, can find a Oneness church that doesnt have the dress code issues. In most such cases I've seen, there are several such churches believers could choose from, if they want to find them.
I dont think "dress code issues" should be an excuse for someone changing from Oneness to Trinitarian -- although some have made it an excuse. I just dont buy it though. When I see people leave Oneness churches and make wholesale doctrinal changes, I have to wonder how solid those people were on their doctrinal positions in the first place.
Its true there are NOW some Churches to choose from without dress code issues. For many years that was very rare. Even now there are no Oneness Churches in my region of Kentucky that I am aware of where these are not taught.
By no means do I advocate giving up Oneness doctrine for Trinity. That would certainly be a fall.
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