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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Liz they were rebaptized because they had been baptized unto John ....
in Acts 19 ...
They were subsequently baptized INTO THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST ... into the person of Christ....
This is in stark contrast to you and a trinitarian, today ... both placing faith in Christ for their salvation.
A person baptized in ceremony naming the titles is placing faith in Jesus Christ in the same manner as you did ... NO DIFFERENCE.
I take nothing away from your experience but I think it is you that are taking away from those who have a "properly administered baptism" which you cannot validate makes a difference or adds .... in the person's Spirit-led walk... either anectdotally or scripturally. Other than those you've been in contact with while there are others who have similar success stories without your type experience.
You don't need to defend Jesus name baptism, Liz. I believe it ... and practice it. My church does too.
But don't confuse your one revelation with the salvation only Christ affords ... nor your personal experience as normative for others.
Normative initiation ... I'll accept ... normative "replicative" experiences ... with superior type baptisms adding to a birth in His Spirit ... nope. |
Daniel I really hope that you know what you are talking about. We do not have the right to change anything that has been given us by example in scriptures.
I actually see where you are coming from, but I do not think you know exactly where I am coming from.
I am struggling teaching the Celebrate Recovery stuff, it does NOT mention Baptism with it's salvation study at all-then it goes to suggest that repeating a prayer and teaches one is saved forever--this is not the normative biblical experience.
Now I am more inclined in someone believing that they have called on the name of the Lord in Baptism --that is for them to decide.
But to suggest less than, and seeing people struggle with sin- God does have something more for them.
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