I refuse to remove the landmarks - Page 4

Aquila · #31 03-03-2009, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bhoutreach

NO I am not. How ever It is clear that there should be clothing that is distinctly mens and distinctly womens.

If women have dress and skirts. Plus wear pants. Then men have nothing that is distinct to men. This is a problem.

lol

You know we're just having a good conversation. I mean no offense in any of this, though I might use some strong words at some point to drive home a point. If women's "pants" aren't distinctively female then you're asserting that men can wear them. If you argue that men shouldn't wear women's pants, you're affirming that women's pants are distinctively female. Besides, my studies have indicated that pants were originally designed in ancient China for women working in the rice patties. The Chinese cavalry eventually took these pants and began wearing them as part of horse riding attire. Soon this caught on through most of the civilized world as part of riding attire, primarily worn by military men on horseback. Interestingly, hose were originally worn by men...but today are strictly worn by women. lol

I'm curious, where do you believe that the Bible requires this "distinction"?

Hoovie · #32 03-03-2009, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bhoutreach

I am not sure what makes this forum Apostolic. From everything I have seen so far people here detest everything that makes Apostolics who they are.

If you are interested in how we dress - I would say there is some variety - no doubt.

My wife and girls wear long hair and skirts only. I shun them (skirts) - donning them only when acting on stage

... sometimes it's required when depicting the Biblical period scenes.

Welcome my friend - we are much more alike than different.

Sherri · #33 03-03-2009, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by YEPhesMycousin

bh, this forum truly is no place for this discussion because they will slam you to kingdom come and say they are being Christlike about it. I was a lurker long before I joined.

I too believe in holding to the old paths, but even when I have seen people write personal testimonies of their own convictions I have seen the people on here tell them that what they experienced was not real.

For example, myself.....when I was 13 I trimmed my hair and God lifted the anointing from me for 1 year. When I would sing, there was no anointing. Now, someone on here will say that is not true as though I don't know my own relationship with God and don't really know what happened to me. Sad.

Anyways, I am with ya bro. I have had too many friends who walked away from exterior consecration and they have lost their anointing. I will not argue the point with ANYONE!

I won't argue it with anyone either. AND I don't doubt your story. I believe that God requires things from some of us that He doesn't require from others. There are convictions that I have that I will not change, no matter what all my ministry friends do.

I think the whole issue on here is that we would like to be considered brothers and sisters. We are willing to accept you as brothers/sisters, and would just like to feel that you accept us too. We love the Lord every bit as much as you do.

bhoutreach · #34 03-03-2009, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by YEPhesMycousin

bh, this forum truly is no place for this discussion because they will slam you to kingdom come and say they are being Christlike about it. I was a lurker long before I joined.

I too believe in holding to the old paths, but even when I have seen people write personal testimonies of their own convictions I have seen the people on here tell them that what they experienced was not real.

For example, myself.....when I was 13 I trimmed my hair and God lifted the anointing from me for 1 year. When I would sing, there was no anointing. Now, someone on here will say that is not true as though I don't know my own relationship with God and don't really know what happened to me. Sad.

Anyways, I am with ya bro. I have had too many friends who walked away from exterior consecration and they have lost their anointing. I will not argue the point with ANYONE!

Glad to find a couple that agree with me. I suspected this was not the forum for this topic. That is why I started it. I want to see where the majority was.

Aquila · #35 03-03-2009, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bhoutreach

See that is the problem you don't all even agree with the basic doctrine. I do not believe dress is the only thing that defines us but I do believe it to be apart of it. God was concerned with it so I am.

I do appreciate your spirit. I do not mean to be offensive. I am just passionate.

That's all good brother. God bless you. Let's continue to talk and share our perspectives. I used to be an ultra-conservative. At the very least I can show you why my beliefs have changed a little. Not to say you're absolutely wrong, but to share what I believe the Lord has shown me.

YEPhesMycousin · #36 03-03-2009, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bhoutreach

Glad to find a couple that agree with me. I suspected this was not the forum for this topic. That is why I started it. I want to see where the majority was.

The majority from what I've seen is LIBERAL.

There was one obnoxious guy who they banned. Glad he's gone. Don't even know why he called himself a Christian. He was crude and mean about everything.

bhoutreach · #37 03-03-2009, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

lol

You know we're just having a good conversation. I mean no offense in any of this, though I might use some strong words at some point to drive home a point. If women's "pants" aren't distinctively female then you're asserting that men can wear them. If you argue that men shouldn't wear women's pants, you're affirming that women's pants are distinctively female. Besides, my studies have indicated that pants were originally designed in ancient China for women working in the rice patties. The Chinese cavalry eventually took these pants and began wearing them as part of horse riding attire. Soon this caught on through most of the civilized world as part of riding attire, primarily worn by military men on horseback. Interestingly, hose were originally worn by men...but today are strictly worn by women. lol

I'm curious, where do you believe that the Bible requires this "distinction"?

My dear friend I believe you know where I will go in the Bible for this. I have things I could say about your argument, but it is just that an argument. I do not want to do that and neither do you. we will not change eachothers minds.
I have found out what I wanted .

GOD bless and good night.

RandyWayne · #38 03-03-2009, 10:18 PM

I wear cloths.

Sometimes.

RandyWayne · #39 03-03-2009, 10:20 PM

Seriously though, I hope that you pick up one VERY important fact as a result of this thread you started.....

.....you weren't banned for starting it!

Now if "I" went onto a conservative apostolic board and dared question some "old landmark" (circa, 1950's) "standard", I would be corrected, chastised, and subsequently banned in rapid order.

TalkLady · #40 03-03-2009, 10:21 PM

I love it when new people come to the forum. Let's all make them welcome!

You know...

God loves people - any shape, any color, any size.
You don't have to be an angel, to be really special in His eyes.
He said in John 3:16 and He proved it on Calvary.
God loves people, ordinary people - people like you and me!