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Look, I love everyone who attends the aseembly I pastor. I try very hard to divulge the truth in an untainted way. But I am flesh. There is the possibility that I may make a mistake in my application. There is the possibility that someone may be offended and never even tell me about it. They may choose to walk away because of my ignorance.
Will God judge me (punish me) for that?
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04-12-2007, 10:08 AM
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Thank you for that well-crafted response. Let me see if I can reciprocate.
Here goes:
Why not?
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Look, I love everyone who attends the aseembly I pastor. I try very hard to divulge the truth in an untainted way. But I am flesh. There is the possibility that I may make a mistake in my application. There is the possibility that someone may be offended and never even tell me about it.
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They may choose to walk away because of my ignorance.
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Will God judge me (punish me) for that?
BTW, you are very kind tbpew.  |
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04-12-2007, 10:15 AM
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Look, I love everyone who attends the aseembly I pastor. I try very hard to divulge the truth in an untainted way. But I am flesh. There is the possibility that I may make a mistake in my application. There is the possibility that someone may be offended and never even tell me about it. They may choose to walk away because of my ignorance.
Will God judge me (punish me) for that?
BTW, you are very kind tbpew. |
That's His decision, but I don't think so.
However, I think when a pastor teaches something that is not Biblical and teaches it as a heaven or hell issue and it causes someone to feel they have to abide because it's coming from the man of God, then he could be held accountable for that.
That's why in my opinion, it's best to teach the Word of God and pastor your people, instruct, admonish, water them, give them room to grow, but not put undue strain on them with "your" (the pastor's) own convictions.
Does that make sense? Within the Apostolic ranks there are 100's of different rules and regulations and one group doesn't agree with the other - it shouldn't be that difficult if everyone was following what God intends.
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04-12-2007, 10:20 AM
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I think if someone kills innocents unknowingly that is one thing. But if a person has rejected certain elements of truth...he will be held accountable.
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Right.
The Oneness of God.
Baptism in Jesus Name.
Essentiality of the Holy Ghost.
That's just a few for starters.
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04-12-2007, 10:21 AM
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Where do you get that idea from?
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James said, "My brethren, be not many masters, for such chall receive the greater condemnation."
I believe the word means teachers there.
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04-12-2007, 10:22 AM
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That's His decision, but I don't think so.
However, I think when a pastor teaches something that is not Biblical and teaches it as a heaven or hell issue and it causes someone to feel they have to abide because it's coming from the man of God, then he could be held accountable for that.
That's why in my opinion, it's best to teach the Word of God and pastor your people, instruct, admonish, water them, give them room to grow, but not put undue strain on them with "your" (the pastor's) own convictions.
Does that make sense? Within the Apostolic ranks there are 100's of different rules and regulations and one group doesn't agree with the other - it shouldn't be that difficult if everyone was following what God intends.
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good stuff RG 
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04-12-2007, 10:22 AM
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I don't see the correlation.
Is that scripture specifically speaking to leadership? What is the context?
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Let's put it this way, do you think being a Pastor (spiritual leadership) is just a job?
Do you not think that there will be an accounting of what has been intrusted to you?
I am in a secular job. I oversee a few people, and there are "secular" laws that I am responsible both in how I treat the ones I am responsible for, and for how I teach them.
Would not God do the same?
Jere 32:2 Therefore thus saith the LORD God of Israel against the pastors that feed my people; Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith the LORD.
Sounds like God is going to hold Pastors to account does it not? 
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04-12-2007, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by rgcraig
That's His decision, but I don't think so.
However, I think when a pastor teaches something that is not Biblical and teaches it as a heaven or hell issue and it causes someone to feel they have to abide because it's coming from the man of God, then he could be held accountable for that.
That's why in my opinion, it's best to teach the Word of God and pastor your people, instruct, admonish, water them, give them room to grow, but not put undue strain on them with "your" (the pastor's) own convictions.
Does that make sense? Within the Apostolic ranks there are 100's of different rules and regulations and one group doesn't agree with the other - it shouldn't be that difficult if everyone was following what God intends.
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Doesn't the pastor have an obligation to set boundaries in the church? At some point every pastor has to apply the Word in different situations. I believe this where prayer is imperative.
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04-12-2007, 10:24 AM
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Thank you for that well-crafted response. Let me see if I can reciprocate.
Here goes:
Why not?
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LOL. Because God isn't like that. 
All anyone can do is their best. That's what Paul did. What Peter and the other apostles did. It's what most preachers who are true Shepherds and love their flock and take their responsibility seriously can do.
If someone decides to walk away from God because of something you did or didn't say is their decision. There is responsibility on the part of the hearer as well for what they do or don't do .... how they respond to teaching and preaching. A real love for God and desire to follow Him will keep a person in relationship with God.
God isn't like that - to punish someone who is doing their best to impart truth to people because the application or communication is less than perfect. We all are that.
Jesus in His perfection couldn't keep everybody and very likely offended people too, knowingly or unknowingly. I guess this might be the short answer. I got to it eventually. LOL
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