Email recvd Muslim vs Christianity

[Baron1710]

On February 12, 2009, Muzzammil Hassan informed police that he had beheaded his wife. Hassan had emigrated to the United States 30 years ago and, after a successful banking career, had founded Bridges TV, a Muslim-interest network which aims, according to its website, "to foster a greater understanding among many cultures and diverse populations." Erie County District Attorney Frank A. Sedita III told The Buffalo News that "this is the worst form of domestic violence possible," and Khalid Qazi, president of the Muslim Public Affairs Council of Western New York, told the New York Post that Islam forbids such domestic violence. While Muslim advocacy organizations argue that honor killings are a misnomer stigmatizing Muslims for what is simply domestic violence, a problem that has nothing to do with religion, Phyllis Chesler, who just completed a study of more than 50 instances of North American honor killings, says the evidence suggests otherwise.

http://www.meforum.org/2067/are-hono...estic-violence

[Baron1710]

So-called "honour" killings take the lives of thousands of young women every year, mainly in Western Asia, North Africa and parts of South Asia. At least 1,000 women were murdered in Pakistan in 1999.
http://www.unfpa.org/swp/2000/english/ch03.html

Isolated incidents?

[Baron1710]

Aamir Latif, a correspondent for the Islamist website Islam Online who writes frequently on the issue, reported that in 2007 in the Punjab province of Pakistan alone, there were 1,261 honor murders.

IslamOnline.net, Jan. 11, 2007.

[Nitehawk013]

I got the movie Obsession in the mail. That, along with seeing children barely old enough to speak saying Jews are "dogs" and should be killed, is all I need to know about the "religion of peace" that is Islam.

[Walks_in_islam]

It is a sad case. It is also more about culture and less about religion.

I made a flippant analogy between christians who do wrong things and muslims who do wrong things.

Churches practice freely in some muslim countries and are not allowed to practice at all in others. In some countries it is dangerous to be Muslim and in some countries it is dangerous to be christian.

As to what happens when - Christian ministers are caught with their pants down more often than young girls experience honor killings. The bible teaches that adulterers or witches or blasphemers are to be put to death. In the hands of literal interpretation this can be and has been used as an excuse or pretext for killing. aka "heresy". When either Islam or christianity is applied that way both are wrong. The bible teaches mercy and forgiveness. As does that Quran. The Quran mentions mercy more than it mentions penalty.

Those who have no mercy will show no mercy. Religion is an un-needed reason to become what one really is. Religion has been used as excuse and justification to kill both christians and muslims. Application of the actions to the few to the entire faith is wrong. On both sides.

Originally Posted by Baron1710

Which happens more often?

And when did anyone ever claim that the Bible does teach such a thing?

Are you saying people who convert from Islam in muslim contries are not in danger?

[Walks_in_islam]

It is good to know that you wisely base your decisions from the movies. Hitler used propaganda too and it worked just as well.

Originally Posted by Nitehawk013

I got the movie Obsession in the mail. That, along with seeing children barely old enough to speak saying Jews are "dogs" and should be killed, is all I need to know about the "religion of peace" that is Islam.

[Walks_in_islam]

At the same time in the US there were 10,000 murders for various reasons. Where is the outrage?

Originally Posted by Baron1710

Aamir Latif, a correspondent for the Islamist website Islam Online who writes frequently on the issue, reported that in 2007 in the Punjab province of Pakistan alone, there were 1,261 honor murders.

IslamOnline.net, Jan. 11, 2007.

[Walks_in_islam]

Nobody denies that there are honor killings. That they happen do not happen to make them right.

Originally Posted by Baron1710

On February 12, 2009, Muzzammil Hassan informed police that he had beheaded his wife. Hassan had emigrated to the United States 30 years ago and, after a successful banking career, had founded Bridges TV, a Muslim-interest network which aims, according to its website, "to foster a greater understanding among many cultures and diverse populations." Erie County District Attorney Frank A. Sedita III told The Buffalo News that "this is the worst form of domestic violence possible," and Khalid Qazi, president of the Muslim Public Affairs Council of Western New York, told the New York Post that Islam forbids such domestic violence. While Muslim advocacy organizations argue that honor killings are a misnomer stigmatizing Muslims for what is simply domestic violence, a problem that has nothing to do with religion, Phyllis Chesler, who just completed a study of more than 50 instances of North American honor killings, says the evidence suggests otherwise.

http://www.meforum.org/2067/are-hono...estic-violence

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

At the same time in the US there were 10,000 murders for various reasons. Where is the outrage?

In ordinary domestic violence involving Westerners, it is rare for brothers to kill sisters or for male cousins to kill female cousins. And while child abuse occurs in which fathers may kill infants and children, it is very rare for Western fathers to kill teenage daughters.
http://www.meforum.org/2067/are-hono...iolence#_ftn17

This is a sick fact, Muslims kill in the name of Allah their own flesh and blood.

Not quit the same as someone who kills for their own selfish gain or anger. Those numbers represent honor killings, not all murders in those countries.

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Nobody denies that there are honor killings. That they happen do not happen to make them right.

Why is that such a prominate part of the muslim community?