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12-03-2009, 12:53 PM
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Re: Feast Of Tabernacles And Christ's birth ?
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Mary conceived in Elizabeth's six month.
Luk 1:24 And after those days his wife Elisabeth conceived, and hid herself five months, saying,
Luk 1:25 Thus hath the Lord dealt with me in the days wherein he looked on me, to take away my reproach among men.
Luk 1:26 And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,
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Therein lies the key, verse 26. It was in the sixth month (seventh at the latest) when Marry conceived. That would place the birth of Jesus around the third month (fourth at the latest) of the following year. Or, Jesus was most likely conceived during the month of Tishrei (September) and was born in the month of Tammuz (June).
We should remember is that in the Messiah's first advent, He fulfilled all of the Spring festivals and holy days, including Shavuot (aka, Pentecost). It is expected that upon His return He will fulfill the fall festivals and holy days, It is interesting to note that the observance of the feast of Tabernacles will be required by the entire world during the earthly rein of Christ.( Zechariah 14:16-19). The fall is also when the religious new year falls.
Now, we need to overlay, where possible, the time line of the birth of John the Baptist, there being a six month over lap.
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12-03-2009, 12:54 PM
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Re: Feast Of Tabernacles And Christ's birth ?
So what you are trying to say Scott, is that Jesus was not born in December!
Pagan, trying to take away the golden calf of pentecost!
Of course He was born in September. Remember that EVERYTHING that Jesus did was wrapped up in Prophecy. He fullfilled all the old testament feasts in his ministry.
He fulfilled the feast of tabernacles when God's Spirit tabernacled with men.
Kinda takes away all the hoopla of Christ Mass, but, you old grinch, you enjoy that!
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12-03-2009, 12:57 PM
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Re: Feast Of Tabernacles And Christ's birth ?
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Therein lies the key, verse 26. It was in the sixth month (seventh at the latest) when Marry conceived. That would place the birth of Jesus around the third month (fourth at the latest) of the following year. Or, Jesus was most likely conceived during the month of Tishrei (September) and was born in the month of Tammuz (June).
We should remember is that in the Messiah's first advent, He fulfilled all of the Spring festivals and holy days, including Shavuot (aka, Pentecost). It is expected that upon His return He will fulfill the fall festivals and holy days, It is interesting to note that the observance of the feast of Tabernacles will be required by the entire world during the earthly rein of Christ.( Zechariah 14:16-19). The fall is also when the religious new year falls.
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The problem with those that try to call themselves messianic Christians is that they still have the same problem of saying jesus was a failed messiah!
Jesus already fulfilled the feast of tabernacles, the entire world is already required to fulfill that feast, (new birth) for salvation!
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12-03-2009, 01:02 PM
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Re: Feast Of Tabernacles And Christ's birth ?
Monterrey I feel He did it when He himself was tabernacled in the flesh. He was
called Emmanuel. God with us. He came and dwelt in his own fleshly tent in the
midst of His people. Sure we can say it is truth that He also dwells in us but to have
but I believe his dwelling in the flesh among us fullfilled tabernacles.
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12-03-2009, 01:04 PM
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Re: Feast Of Tabernacles And Christ's birth ?
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Monterrey I feel He did it when He himself was tabernacled in the flesh. He was
called Emmanuel. God with us. He came and dwelt in his own fleshly tent in the
midst of His people. Sure we can say it is truth that He also dwells in us but to have
but I believe his dwelling in the flesh among us fullfilled tabernacles.
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Please rephrase that? No comprende!
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12-03-2009, 01:16 PM
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Re: Feast Of Tabernacles And Christ's birth ?
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The problem with those that try to call themselves messianic Christians is that they still have the same problem of saying jesus was a failed messiah!
Jesus already fulfilled the feast of tabernacles, the entire world is already required to fulfill that feast, (new birth) for salvation!
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I fully agree with you - I have a most difficult time saying that, "Jesus was a failed Messiah."
However, I can find no scriptural evidence linking the Feast of Tabernacles with one's salvation. Please provide book, chapter, and verse(s) and study notes (commentary) supporting your theory.
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12-03-2009, 01:21 PM
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Re: Feast Of Tabernacles And Christ's birth ?
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I fully agree with you - I have a most difficult time saying that, "Jesus was a failed Messiah."
However, I can find no scriptural evidence linking the Feast of Tabernacles with one's salvation. Please provide book, chapter, and verse(s) and study (commentary) for your theory.
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Say huh?
Did God tabernacle with men through the Body of Christ?
Are we, those filled with the Spirit, now the Body of Christ?
Not sure what kinda books you are looking for.
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12-03-2009, 01:51 PM
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Re: Feast Of Tabernacles And Christ's birth ?
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Please rephrase that? No comprende!
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haha...Hermano.
You know very well that Jesus was God tabernacled in the flesh.
Here in Peter we see the flesh spoken of as a tabernacle
2Pe 1:13 Yea, I think it meet, as long as I am in this tabernacle, to stir you up by putting you in remembrance;
2Pe 1:14 Knowing that shortly I must put off this my tabernacle, even as our Lord Jesus Christ hath shewed me.
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12-03-2009, 05:12 PM
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Re: Feast Of Tabernacles And Christ's birth ?
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haha...Hermano.
You know very well that Jesus was God tabernacled in the flesh.
Here in Peter we see the flesh spoken of as a tabernacle
2Pe 1:13 Yea, I think it meet, as long as I am in this tabernacle, to stir you up by putting you in remembrance;
2Pe 1:14 Knowing that shortly I must put off this my tabernacle, even as our Lord Jesus Christ hath shewed me.
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Uh oh
Now you are saying that Jesus fulfilled the feast of tabernacles! And we also are fulfillin that feast?
Wow!
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12-03-2009, 07:16 PM
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Re: Feast Of Tabernacles And Christ's birth ?
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Uh oh
Now you are saying that Jesus fulfilled the feast of tabernacles! And we also are fulfillin that feast?
Wow!
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Yes I am. I am to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth....so help me Jesus.
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