Armor Bearer vs Flunky

warrior · #1 03-02-2010, 12:21 PM

I have seen a number of pastors and their wives implement the position of the armour bear. These people stand guard for them, run errands, pray for them, provide a spiritual barrier between them and the devils tactics sent from outsiders, prepare meals and drinks, wipe sweat, pack luggages for trips etc.

Is this position biblical and necessary? What does the scripture say about this? Or do we see this as an "errand boy/girl for the pastor?

John Atkinson · #2 03-02-2010, 12:32 PM

sad day in church when the ministry gets so full of themselves they gotta have servants. "armor Bearer" hah, that is a pretty good con.

rgcraig · #3 03-02-2010, 12:57 PM

I think you mean bearer - I'll make the change for you.

warrior · #4 03-02-2010, 01:05 PM

Yes, thanks for making the change.

rgcraig · #5 03-02-2010, 01:13 PM

Black churches use these A LOT!!

There are a few other churches in my area that do too that aren't COGIC.

A.W. Bowman · #6 03-02-2010, 01:14 PM

One cannot be both servant and master at the same time.

In too many churches, the servant has become the master. The 'servant of all' has become the one 'served by all'. Do not be envious of them, for they have already received their reward. Rather, see to the sheep.

rgcraig · #7 03-02-2010, 01:14 PM

I don't mind if someone wants to "cover" their minister in prayer privately, but to follow them around with water bottles and carry their Bible is a bit too much for me.

I accompanied a friend that spoke at a ladies conference and they did this. Drove me nuts because they did it for me too since I was with her. I never could find my "stuff" - - they'd get it and take it away. It made me nervous....lol!

warrior · #8 03-02-2010, 01:28 PM

I don't think it is a matter of being envious. I see it as unecessary use and taking advantage of others. I am concerned that people are being used and are being taken advantage of.

Yes, it is popular in the African American churches, Renda.

RandyWayne · #9 03-02-2010, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

I don't mind if someone wants to "cover" their minister in prayer privately, but to follow them around with water bottles and carry their Bible is a bit too much for me.

I accompanied a friend that spoke at a ladies conference and they did this. Drove me nuts because they did it for me too since I was with her. I never could find my "stuff" - - they'd get it and take it away. It made me nervous....lol!

And maybe even pre-chew their food?

Or how about physically protecting their master and fighting off any attacker kung fu style, like any good lackey of SPECTER would?

Honestly the whole thing is disgusting -and not even thinking about the pre-chewing thing.

warrior · #10 03-02-2010, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

And maybe even pre-chew their food?

That is going way too far.