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Originally Posted by Chan
There is nothing sinful about God's judgements/curses but I think I know where Brad is going with this line of questioning. He seemingly wants to say that homosexual attraction or "orientation" is not something he chose (and it's true that he did not choose to have that unnatural attraction but, instead, that it developed during childhood) and, therefore, it is not sinful (since sin is the choice to disobey God). Fine, let's give him that argument and respond this way: God created male and female and designed them so that mating would occur between male and female and not between males or between females. Homosexual attraction is an attraction that is contrary to God's created design for male and female. By embracing that attraction and trying to say the attraction is natural, normal, etc., one is rejecting God's created design, rejecting God's purpose for male and female (at least as that purpose applies to this particular individual). Such rejection of God's created design constitutes sin because it is, in effect, saying to God that "In this particular instance, what You created is not good and my homosexual attraction is good even though it isn't what you originally created."
Of course, we must separate the unnatural homosexual attraction (which is unnatural because it is contrary to God's created design) from homosexual sin (defined as embracing and/or acting on the unnatural homosexual attraction). The attraction is something for God to heal. The sin is something to be repented of and forsaken.
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I'm sure you are aware that I don't entirely agree with your argument, however, I want to thank you for at least reading my point of view with a desire to understand what I am saying. Your ability to comprehend my argument is appreciated.
I would like to point out that I have already conceded to the fact that homosexual relationships to do not reflect God's original creation. There is no argument there. What I believe, however, is that homosexuality is an mutation of God's original creation of man and woman just as intersexed and hermaphrodite individuals are mutations of God's original creation. As I have stated before; where there is no choice there is no moral culpability.
If a heterosexual man starts looking at pornography and begins to have desires to step away from his natural attraction to women in order to fulfill some sexual desire to experiment with homosexual sex then I would say this person is guilty of turning away from his natural attraction and is behaving in a way that goes against nature. This is clearly an individual who is choosing to turn away from his natural orientation. However, a homosexual (who I believe with all my heart is born homosexual) is not choosing to turn away from his natural orientation. S/he is simply responding to what they naturally are.
What would you (by you I mean anyone reading this post) do if in 10 years it was discovered that there is in fact a sexual orientation gene? How would the church reconcile their belief that sexual orientation is not natural and somehow a choice?
Even more thought provoking is this question. Do you believe you were born with your sexual orientation or do you believe it was learned?
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