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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind
only the OUTER COURT is trampled under foot in the first phrase of rev 11:2. and only east jerusalem will be trodden under foot in REALITY if there is a peace treaty.
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Ok, spoon feed me here. You are saying that trample under foot (which means destruction, not strolling) will happen during peace treaty? Where do you see a peace treaty in
Rev 11:2? How does this all explain the Dome of the Rock and the new rebuilt Israeli Temple on the temple mount? Why didn't John explain to us the issue of the Arabs and the Dome of the Rock and the mosque of Omar? I'm still not understanding how we are to see clearly that trampled under foot the outer court is to be taken to mean "shared" position on the temple mount. Again, why didn't John write about the Dome of the Rock being in close postion to the third temple?
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I am talking about REALITY. In REALITY JEWS CONTROL JERUSALEM.
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What do you mean when you upper case the word "reality" could you explain. Also it is Israelis who control Jerusalem, with the mount under Palestinian control.
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so where do you see gentiles trodding under foot?
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Rev 11:2.
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That is the way Irvin Baxter explains rev 11:2 and I agree with his explanation.
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Why do you agree, when it is not clear? Trampled under foot doesn't indicate sharing something during a peace treaty. Trampled under foot means destrcution of war, and army.
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I haven't a clue about zadokites.
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Don't you think you should find out why?
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Can you explain their role in nehemiah and ezra?
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Yes, but I would like to see if you could try to look at the question and explain it in concerning your view.
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Are you arguing that there won't be a temple?
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I'm arguing nothing at the moment, just trying to pull teeth here and find out about this much awaited third temple. If you all are concerned and believe it to be part and parcel to a belief system, then it should be easy to explain and understand. One, the temple, when will it be built, what about the Dome of the Rock, who are the Zadokites, how will they rebuild the temple? Who will apoint them? How will they Biblically be able to be part of the work since their line has no written registry for over 2,000 years, and no way of linking the family trees from the time of the second temple to now.
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If you are, you are defying an entire religion, nation of people and the very purpose of their existence.
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DM, you think Pentecost has problems, just try Judaism, it is NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM anything like Biblical Judaism of the Torah. It isn't even close to the Judaism during the first century AD. What we have today is a fragmented tossed to and fro, parted out Modern Rabbinical Judaism. Even that has more splits. The people are Jews in name only, and because of the religion called Judaism. They are remotely related by a hair to Semitic peoples, and the majority are converts to Judaism from Europe. Look at Ezra and Nehemiah, they needed far more than DNA to prove they were able to be part of Israel and be part of the temple work. They needed to prove who their family tree was, who was the mother, who was the father, were they of David, and Abraham.
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