There Has Been A Change

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by Brother Strange

Yes, that is right.

Both were true prophets of the Lord. Even the old prophet was a true prophet. He did not lie to the young prophet when he said, "I am also a prophet of the Lord." Yet, he deceived the young prophet by a lie.

I wonder if a lying spirit would be close to a strong delusion.

Originally Posted by Dan

WOW. YOu call a man standing up and prophesying whoring after false doctrine? Someone please explain to me what the man said that was wrong. Here is a question for you. Have you ever quoted anyone or used a phrase from someone that did not believe the truth? that seems to be what triggered Bro. Strange's remarks. Just curious.

"uncommon seed for an uncommon harvest" is classic prosperity speak.

Surely you agree? It's disturbing that we have to beg people to give by using the lingo of lying Charismatic preachers who are only out to build an earthly kingdom for themselves.

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by Cotton Mather

I have often disagreed with Brother Strange, but I totally get what he is saying in this thread. It is sad when the church goes whoring after false doctrines of the world and no one stands in the way to protect Truth.

I am afraid it is Traditions, Pride and heritage that is stiff arming Gods will for the UPCI.

Originally Posted by Dan

WOW. YOu call a man standing up and prophesying whoring after false doctrine? Someone please explain to me what the man said that was wrong. Here is a question for you. Have you ever quoted anyone or used a phrase from someone that did not believe the truth? that seems to be what triggered Bro. Strange's remarks. Just curious.

No, no, that is not it at all.

I recognized the spirit even before he began using terminology from the Cathedral of Wisdom. But, when he did start using that terminology, it was only a confirmation (which was not needed) of an old familiar spirit that I've run into many times over the many years. After awhile, you get familiar with them.

[Dan]

Originally Posted by Cotton Mather

"uncommon seed for an uncommon harvest" is classic prosperity speak.

Surely you agree? It's disturbing that we have to beg people to give by using the lingo of lying Charismatic preachers who are only out to build an earthly kingdom for themselves.

You did not answer my question. Have you ever used a quote or phrase from anyone that does not believe the truth? Patiently waiting.

Originally Posted by CC1

Brother Strange,

Don't take offense when others don't feel what you are feeling. I listen to many old time Oneness Pentecostal sermons that are nothing more than cheerleading, sloagans, yelling, etc and have a heavy heart and a grieved spirit while all the while absolutely fine Pentecostal folks who love God with all their heart are eating it up and are in an emotional frenzy over it.

Bro. CC1, I don't take offense. But, like you, I am grieved.

I too get tired of preaching for the sole purpose of garnering an enthusiastic audience response.

They would not want me in the pulpit right now. There would be a fury in my face as hot as the Hiwaiian volcano that has been erupting for the past few years. There is in my spirit a rebuke as hot as that volcano that would be issued to every thing on the platform from the top down...right into the preacher section and the whole tabernacle too.

Stay tuned, it may erupt out of me tonight anyway. It has happened before.

Originally Posted by Cotton Mather

"uncommon seed for an uncommon harvest" is classic prosperity speak.

Surely you agree? It's disturbing that we have to beg people to give by using the lingo of lying Charismatic preachers who are only out to build an earthly kingdom for themselves.

It was not that alone that made me to know he was a student of the Catheral of Wisdom. He carries the same spirit and also used other words verbatim right from their teachings.

[Dan]

Originally Posted by Brother Strange

Bro. CC1, I don't take offense. But, like you, I am grieved.

I too get tired of preaching for the sole purpose of garnering an enthusiastic audience response.

They would not want me in the pulpit right now. There would be a fury in my face as hot as the Hiwaiian volcano that has been erupting for the past few years. There is in my spirit a rebuke as hot as that volcano that would be issued to every thing on the platform from the top down...right into the preacher section and the whole tabernacle too.

Stay tuned, it may erupt out of me tonight anyway. It has happened before.

I am sure God has given you insight to truth and false spirits and none of our elders or men in ministry have recognized it but you. Bro. You might want to take a look at yourself and stop pointing fingers.

Originally Posted by stmatthew

I wonder if a lying spirit would be close to a strong delusion.

Old Ahab had a choice. He chose instead to prison the Prophet of the Lord and heed the many voices of the prophets of Baal who all agreed with each other. Sometimes, the crowd is wrong and you are left to sand alone against the popular consesus.

Go on up to battle. You will prosper. Go up. No harm will come. All of us prophets agree together. You will prosper, Ahab. Sorry that poor old Miciah had to stand alone. Even he at first lied. He also told them exactly what the prophets of Baal had propesied. In the end, he told both Ahab and Jehosaphat the truth. He saw Ahabs ruin and destruction.

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by Dan

I am sure God has given you insight to truth and false spirits and none of our elders or men in ministry have recognized it but you. Bro. You might want to take a look at yourself and stop pointing fingers.

Yes, and our great elders were right on while Borat was talking in tongues. Nice spiritual discernment that we see being used at a Campmeeting.