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Old 01-14-2010, 01:39 PM
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I can't explain Noah, and I can't explain Job and the deal with the devil. Sodom hurts me, the commanded killings of the OT mystify me.

But I know for sure the tears that started pouring down my face as I sang, "...but there's something about that name" were there because of something I also can't explain...the tangible, soft touch of God that shows up when I least expect it. I can't reasonably understand a lot of things about God but occasionally, when my doubts show up, God also shows up and gives me something better than an explanation...His presence.


That's awesome, NOW. Brought tears to my eyes, actually. Because it's so true. No matter what questions I have, I never want to lose the presence of God. No matter what, I believe He is there, and He's real, and He interacts with us when we seek after Him.
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Old 01-14-2010, 01:50 PM
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Wow, I thought this thread was all in the right spirit... Surprised by the concerned soul who reported it.
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Note from Admin: The below is from our Rules page. The below is non-negotiable. Doesn't mean it can't be discussed. Questions are not a problem. However, if you have doubts about Biblical Inerrancy, it is suggested, that as a primer, you read Josh McDowell's book, "Evidence That Demands a Verdict."


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Does the suppression of questions, conversation, and dialogue only increase and validate the cynicism?
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Does the suppression of questions, conversation, and dialogue only increase and validate the cynicism?
Not really, this is actually a very open and free forum. It isn't censorship or suppression to keep the forum true to its purpose. If a conversation starts to go contrary to that purpose then admin should step in and redirect it.
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Not really, this is actually a very open and free forum. It isn't censorship or suppression to keep the forum true to its purpose. If a conversation starts to go contrary to that purpose then admin should step in and redirect it.
Then evidently "True to its purpose" is the abolition of any questions as to the struggle with certain stories of the Old Testament. Got it.
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Then evidently "True to its purpose" is the abolition of any questions as to the struggle with certain stories of the Old Testament. Got it.
I hear ya, struggling with some of those stories was one of my biggest obstacles once upon a time.
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Then evidently "True to its purpose" is the abolition of any questions as to the struggle with certain stories of the Old Testament. Got it.
Struggle all you want. However, the conclusion that God's word is fallible is unacceptable on this forum. It is who we are, it is what we believe, it is a foundation we firmly stand upon. Personally, there are a plethora of things I don't understand, but I don't resort to errancy to explain them. There used to be a LOT more that I didn't understand, but now I do w/o having to resort to errancy. Continued study and trust in God answers most questions. The questions I don't have answered, I have chosen to not let them affect my walk. Like Job, "Though He slay me, yet will I trust Him."
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Struggle all you want. However, the conclusion that God's word is fallible is unacceptable on this forum. It is who we are, it is what we believe, it is a foundation we firmly stand upon. Personally, there are a plethora of things I don't understand, but I don't resort to errancy to explain them. There used to be a LOT more that I didn't understand, but now I do w/o having to resort to errancy. Continued study and trust in God answers most questions. The questions I don't have answered, I have chosen to not let them affect my walk. Like Job, "Though He slay me, yet will I trust Him."

I still don't hardly know what to say except a very underwhelming "wow." I've heard it said, "When discussion isn't allowed, it always seems like someone has something to hide."

In my opinion, cynicism jumps through the roof when this happens. But you all get to do what you want, so........
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