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Old 06-06-2007, 08:10 PM
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I think the word made here means born like in GAL.4:4 where it says made or born of a woman.
And? Why is made different than born? BTW the greek word is

ginomai
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1) to become, i.e. to come into existence, begin to be, receive being

What difference does it make if the Word or God was made flesh or was born flesh?
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Scott...are you ignoring me? lol
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This is an intriguing topic.

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And? Why is made different than born? BTW the greek word is

ginomai
Thayer Definition:
1) to become, i.e. to come into existence, begin to be, receive being

What difference does it make if the Word or God was made flesh or was born flesh?
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Old 06-06-2007, 08:15 PM
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Eloi, Eloi, Lama Sabachthani

I heard a pastor say that man feels forsaken of God when he sins, and Jesus had taken upon Him the sins of the world, therefore He was able to
say "my God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"

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And? Why is made different than born? BTW the greek word is

ginomai
Thayer Definition:
1) to become, i.e. to come into existence, begin to be, receive being

What difference does it make if the Word or God was made flesh or was born flesh?
Made might imply being a created being to some folks like the JWs.Whereas being borned or begotten would prove the virgin birth.
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Next question did Jesus Christ become sin on the cross ,or He was just an offering for sin ?
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II Corinthians 5:21 says

God made Him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in Him we might become the righteousness of God!
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Made means to become so the Lord became Humanity through the virgin birth without dimishing His divinity or Godhood.
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Made means to become so the Lord became Humanity through the virgin birth without dimishing His divinity or Godhood.
Right. Fully man, fully God.
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Old 06-06-2007, 08:24 PM
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II Corinthians 5:21 says

God made Him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in Him we might become the righteousness of God!
Does this mean That Jesus become a sin -offering for us ,or did He actually become sin ? If Jesus became Sin would not that imply guilt ?
Also due to the virgin birth He had no falled Adamic sinful nature.
The animals in the OT. were offered as sin -offerings but they themselves did not become sin in their flesh.
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