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Old 11-24-2009, 03:16 PM
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The book fo Revelation is multifaceted, dynamic, and multidimensional. That is the nature of prophecy. For example a prophetic utterance might go forth and apply to many different peoples lives in many different ways in any given moment in time, a period of time, or series of moments in time.

For those of the first century the Revelation spoke directly to them and the circumstances unfolding within their generation (Preterism). For those living during the dark ages of the church the shadows of prophecy loom historically as the spirit of antichrist is seen in the Roman Catholic Church (historicism). Within the very writ of the Revelation we see spiritual principles and depictions that are spiritually relevant to all believers in every age in any location (Spiritual). Yet still the Revelation serves to possibly unfold more horrendous events yet to unfold in the future culminating in what is often referred to as the Armaggeddon.

Sadly, one track minds who cannot interpret scripture transdimentionally or in a multifacetted manner are lost to the truths espoused by every eschatological position. Depending on subject matter and historical context any given interpretation may indeed be found bearing truth.

Often those who espouse a position apart from the traditional Futurist interpretation pride themselves for thinking outside of the box. However, they only leap from one box to another. Loose the boxes all together and embrace the truths that pour fourth from the fountain of spiritual insight and revelation that apply to all believers, in all places, in any given context, in any given period or moment in time.
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Old 11-24-2009, 03:19 PM
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Maybe you were. But it brings up an excellent point. Preterists, while accurately depicting what prophecy meant to those living in the first cenutry, are blind to the reality of the Revelation's shadows that speak just as strongly to the future. Futurists fail to see the relevance of prophetic fulfillment to those living in the first century while rightfully watching for the Revelation's future relevance.
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Old 11-25-2009, 06:44 AM
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Re: Global Warming is Happening!!!!

If this is the time when the sun is scorching the earth...then why the widespread reports every year recently that it was COOLER than normal?

Its a hoax folks. The climate is in transition. It is getting warmer in some areas, but cooler in others. Big deal. I remember having tons of snow in the winters here in central Ohio. Now...we get almost none until February. However, there are places that didn't used to get much snow who now get loads of it.
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Old 11-25-2009, 07:29 AM
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If this is the time when the sun is scorching the earth...then why the widespread reports every year recently that it was COOLER than normal?

Its a hoax folks. The climate is in transition. It is getting warmer in some areas, but cooler in others. Big deal. I remember having tons of snow in the winters here in central Ohio. Now...we get almost none until February. However, there are places that didn't used to get much snow who now get loads of it.
Global Warming doesn't necessarily mean universal warming around the globe. It means that there are measured temperature increases in areas significant enough to change weather patterns faster and more drastically than what has been observed in geological history. So yes, as weather patterns change to accomodate warm fronts over the oceans you'll see some areas getting snow and colder temperatures than in the past while others indeed do get warmer.
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Old 11-25-2009, 10:43 AM
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Re: Global Warming is Happening!!!!

Remember when the Exxon Valdez spilled in Alaska? They said it would take decades for the ecosystem to come back to normal.

The only problem is, when they went back in just a few years it seems that the ocean had already taken care of the problem. Instead of decades it only took a few years for the ocean to cleanse itself of the petro problem.

Just this week we see where scientists have found, in the deepest part of the oceans, animal life that actually feeds on petroleum that oozes out of the ocean floor.

Seems like God has everything figured out to balance out the system.
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Old 11-25-2009, 01:47 PM
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Remember when the Exxon Valdez spilled in Alaska? They said it would take decades for the ecosystem to come back to normal.

The only problem is, when they went back in just a few years it seems that the ocean had already taken care of the problem. Instead of decades it only took a few years for the ocean to cleanse itself of the petro problem.

Just this week we see where scientists have found, in the deepest part of the oceans, animal life that actually feeds on petroleum that oozes out of the ocean floor.

Seems like God has everything figured out to balance out the system.
It's not quite a "balance" there at the ocean depths, not entirely anyway. A lot, perhaps most of that petroleum is in in closed cycle at very great depths. The petroleum on the continents used be green and living organic matter that was breathing CO2 and converting it into oxygen.

It is an "imbalance" in my opinion, to leave that petroleum and its carbon locked away in the rocks. We must release the carbon from petroleum, coal and natural gas in order to return it to the biosphere.

What if the "reason" we are here is just for this purpose? What if we're supposed to be burning fossil fuels in order to prepare the planet for a great renewal?
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Old 11-25-2009, 10:49 AM
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I don't know. From a practical stand point it would appear that the most acclaimed and credible research believes global warming to be a reality... and you have a minority who say that it isn't.

I'd like to ask this question...

What if you're wrong Ferd and global warming is a serious issue? What if we exacerbating the problem with various emissions?
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Old 11-25-2009, 10:56 AM
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I don't know. From a practical stand point it would appear that the most acclaimed and credible research believes global warming to be a reality and you have a minority who say that it isn't.

I'd like to ask this question... what if you're wrong Ferd and global warming is a serious issues that we are only exacerbating with various emissions?
Have you been following the news this week? the most acclaimed and credible researchers on the planet (the guys that run the IPCC) just got discredited... LAST FRIDAY.

but lets play your game.

What if I am wrong and CO2 is a real green house gas.

Then things arent that bad. The earth has seen CO2 levels around 7000 ppm (right now it is about 380ish PPM) with temperatures no more than 8 to 10 degrees cooler.

during those periods, the earth had its greatest diversity of flora and fauna.

If that happned and the polar regions warmed, and the ice caps melted signifantly (even worst case) then the vast areas of Siberia, Canada and Alaska would all the sudden be freed up for the production of food.

Warming of that nature would cause sea level rise that would flood out about 500 million people but would make 1/5 of the earths land mass more livable.


So even IF CO2 is a serious green house gas, there is nothing to worry about.
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Have you been following the news this week? the most acclaimed and credible researchers on the planet (the guys that run the IPCC) just got discredited... LAST FRIDAY.

but lets play your game.

What if I am wrong and CO2 is a real green house gas.

Then things arent that bad. The earth has seen CO2 levels around 7000 ppm (right now it is about 380ish PPM) with temperatures no more than 8 to 10 degrees cooler.

during those periods, the earth had its greatest diversity of flora and fauna.

If that happned and the polar regions warmed, and the ice caps melted signifantly (even worst case) then the vast areas of Siberia, Canada and Alaska would all the sudden be freed up for the production of food.

Warming of that nature would cause sea level rise that would flood out about 500 million people but would make 1/5 of the earths land mass more livable.


So even IF CO2 is a serious green house gas, there is nothing to worry about.
Yeah, that's nothin' compared to the Sun going supernova in a few billion years!

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Yeah, that's nothin' compared to the Sun going supernova in a few billion years!

Interesting Timmy,

How are we going to protect ourselves against THAT!

Is that caused by humanity also?

Maybe by then we can erect a large shield around the earth that will shield the heat coming from the sun. It will be made out of a new found substance that is mined off of a distant planet.

Hhmmmmmm.
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