There is a rumor circulating that certain conservative leaders have secured a separate meeting hall at Tampa should the tv resolution pass. The story is they will walk out of the business meeting en masse and will proceed to this alternate meeting hall where they will organize and conduct their own business complete with election of officials.
There is a rumor circulating that certain conservative leaders have secured a separate meeting hall at Tampa should the tv resolution pass. The story is they will walk out of the business meeting en masse and will proceed to this alternate meeting hall where they will organize and conduct their own business complete with election of officials.
Can anybody verify this?
LOL! We have these predictions annually .... like at least once a year at GC time for the past few years now and sometimes inbetween as well.
Hohum.
__________________ Smiles & Blessings.... ~Felicity Welsh~ (surname courtesy of Jim Yohe)
Give me a break. Does that verse come nearer to applying to those who do take a strong stand against the evils of tv, or those who don't?
Where are you going to find more sensuality?
I could also quote verses like, "Come out from among them and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and I will receive you..."
But what does that prove?
The bottom line is, there may be a point here at which some brethren feel it is in their best interests to leave the UPC and go a different route.
If that happens, what is the big deal?
The folks that left as a matter of principle in 1992 are held up as heros.
What is the difference?
__________________ "Then answered Amos, and said to Amaziah, I was no prophet, neither was I a prophet's son; but I was an herdman, and a gatherer of sycomore fruit:
And the LORD took me as I followed the flock, and the LORD said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel."
Gotta think of good "recessional" music. How about "Take The Money And Run"? "Hit The Road, Jack"? "Breakin' Up Is Hard To Do"? (Nah. Doesn't really apply!)
Come on, help me out!
Here's some lyrics to apply here. They came to mind when our church split a month ago:
You can cry
But don't cry for me
I can't take it no more
That's the way it must be
You can't lie
You're way back in
Back into my heart
I won't let it be broken again
I took a tumble
I started to stumble
That's when I fell
Into a love
A thought came from above
I was under your spell
The things that mattered
Were broken and shattered
One by one
I was so sad
But now I'm glad
It's over and over
There's just one more thing
That I want to say
I truly loved you
But now I'm walking away
I put no one above you
That's why I'm walking away
Wait a minute, sorry, that would be the lyrics i would use if the resolution DID NOT pass.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
The folks that left as a matter of principle in 1992 are held up as heros.
What is the difference?
Really? I think that statement may be a little too general. Maybe by some but certainly not by all.
People need to do what they feel is in their best interests and in accord with their convictions and whatever principles they live by.
I think that leaving over the TV issue is a little different matter than why people have left at other times. Issues come and go and this is not an issue I'd leave over. There are other more important issues to me, but then that's my perspective.
Especially in light of the fact that most in the UPC including pastors either have or are watching television programming.
__________________ Smiles & Blessings.... ~Felicity Welsh~ (surname courtesy of Jim Yohe)
Really? I think that statement may be a little too general. Maybe by some but certainly not by all.
People need to do what they feel is in their best interests and in accord with their convictions and whatever principles they live by.
I think that leaving over the TV issue is a little different matter than why people have left at other times. Issues come and go and this is not an issue I'd leave over. There are other more important issues to me, but then that's my perspective.
Especially in light of the fact that most in the UPC including pastors either have or are watching television programming.
Perhaps it was, as written, a little too general.
But some of the same folks villifying the cons for the possibility they may leave are the folks who admire the 1992 refugees the most.
I personally have far more respect for men who left in 92 because of principle than I do for the ones who stayed in and regularly lie on their AS.
Even when I don't agree, I respect people who have the courage of their convictions.
__________________ "Then answered Amos, and said to Amaziah, I was no prophet, neither was I a prophet's son; but I was an herdman, and a gatherer of sycomore fruit:
And the LORD took me as I followed the flock, and the LORD said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel."
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