Becoming An Ex-Pentecostal

[Aquila]

I think that the more I study the more I realize some things are absolutely biblical (Oneness of God, Acts 2:38, modesty, etc.), but other things are open to interpretation (prophecy, modes of baptism, and the enter-relationship of repentance, baptism, and Holy Ghost infilling, specifics on dress and appearance).

I love the UPCI. But the more I study the more I realize that many of the UPCI's positions are dogmas built on tradition not strictly the Bible. I classify myself as being more of an independent Apostolic Pentecostal. People ask me if I'm liberal or conservative...neither...I'm a radical.

[Light]

In my oppinion (and it matters little) the question should be "Becoming ex-apostolic"
In the book of John the 17th chapter as Jesus prayed he said I pray only for the apostles and for those that would believe on him through the words of the apostles. He said I pray not for the world.
He also said he sent the apostles into the world to teach just as the father sent Jesus into the world.

Any one that teaches any thing other than what Peter did as he stool with the 11 is not apostolic .

[the raven]

Originally Posted by Light

In my oppinion (and it matters little) the question should be "Becoming ex-apostolic"
In the book of John the 17th chapter as Jesus prayed he said I pray only for the apostles and for those that would believe on him through the words of the apostles. He said I pray not for the world.
He also said he sent the apostles into the world to teach just as the father sent Jesus into the world.

Any one that teaches any thing other than what Peter did as he stool with the 11 is not apostolic and or ex-apostolic.

Evidently this is some new variation of the King James version. Could you please explain the purpose for this activity in relation to the rest of your post?

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by the raven

Evidently this is some new variation of the King James version. Could you please explain the purpose for this activity in relation to the rest of your post?

I think he meant "Stood". But THAT WAS FUNNY!!!

[Shawn]

Anyone care to list the Apostolic Doctrine or point me to a sight that does. I'd like to compare it to what I was taught when I attended church.

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by Shawn

Anyone care to list the Apostolic Doctrine or point me to a sight that does. I'd like to compare it to what I was taught when I attended church.

My understanding of basic Apostolic doctrine is:

1. Oneness of godhead
2. Baptism in Jesus name
3. Baptism of Holy Ghost by speaking in tongues
3. Gifts of the spirit are for the church

After that, it goes a thousand different directions.

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

After that, it goes a thousand different directions.

Really?!

[Shawn]

Originally Posted by Shawn

Anyone care to list the Apostolic Doctrine or point me to a sight that does. I'd like to compare it to what I was taught when I attended church.

Thanks!

[Light]

Originally Posted by the raven

Evidently this is some new variation of the King James version. Could you please explain the purpose for this activity in relation to the rest of your post?

All through the 17th chapter Jesus said I have given them your (Fathers) word and your word is truth. In one verse he says and they have received your word. Jesus then goes on to say he manifested (made known) the name of the father to the apostles.

On the day of Pentecost Peter standing up with the 11 spoke the words given to all of the apostles by Jesus.


Acts 2:14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:

Where did he get these words? Words given by Jesus.

The apostles knew what the name of the father was because Jesus told them his name.[/COLOR]

Acts 2:37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

Acts 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.

Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.

Acts 2:42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

[Timmy]

I'm heading to the airport in a bit. If the ole laptop fits between my tummy and the seat in front of me, I may compose my magnum opus. (Couldn't get an exit row this time.)