This Is Why Non-Christians Hate Us - Page 7

DAII · #61 01-13-2010, 08:39 PM

The imperialists I am sure had to come up with fanciful stories after gettin theirs tails handed to them by black slaves.

notofworks · #62 01-13-2010, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I do not perceive Pat Robertson as a true Prophet. But some who speak so strongly against him for being so evil should consider:

The 700 Club has been helping the poor in many nations for many years. Food, medical supplies, schools, you name it. His ministry has always been compassionate. He has through his ministry done far more for the poor than almost any Christian or other type relief agency organization ever.

The funding his group has provided doesn't give him the liberty to say these things.

notofworks · #63 01-13-2010, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

I remember our first Search for Truth bible study and hearing about Ham's sin against his father Noah being the reason the black "race" has experienced the problems they have.

What??? That was in Search for Truth?? Say it ain't so, Joe.

Cindy · #64 01-13-2010, 08:42 PM

I am so sad about the devastation in Haiti. I don't believe however, that natural disasters are the result of God's judgment on a particular people. Or that God delights in innocent people being killed.

pelathais · #65 01-13-2010, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I do not perceive Pat Robertson as a true Prophet. But some who speak so strongly against him for being so evil should consider:

The 700 Club has been helping the poor in many nations for many years. Food, medical supplies, schools, you name it. His ministry has always been compassionate. He has through his ministry done far more for the poor than almost any Christian or other type relief agency organization ever.

I don't think anyone has criticized dear old Pat for anything more than just this lame and bone-headed statement he made.

Other than a tendency for these kinds of miscues, I'm certain that he's a pretty swell guy.

... for a "One Stepper" style "Three God" worshiping spawn of the RCC that he is. That is. Except for that. And he's prone to saying some pretty silly stuff. And he rejects the teaching of "Christian Perfectionism." But other than that, he's cool?

Cindy · #66 01-13-2010, 08:47 PM

I don't believe "they" hate us because of the words of an individual. I do think "they" hate us because we are of God. Maybe "they" are appalled at his words as much as some Christians are.

RandyWayne · #67 01-13-2010, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks

What??? That was in Search for Truth?? Say it ain't so, Joe.

No, it wasn't part of the official Search for Truth, just the opinions of those teaching at the time (and this was close to three decades ago and assume that they abandoned those ideas around that time).

notofworks · #68 01-13-2010, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

No, it wasn't part of the official Search for Truth, just the opinions of those teaching at the time (and this was close to three decades ago and assume that they abandoned those ideas around that time).

Massive sigh of relief.

pelathais · #69 01-13-2010, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DAII

The imperialists I am sure had to come up with fanciful stories after gettin theirs tails handed to them by black slaves.

I think the French soldiers actually spoke of the gallantry of the Haitian forces.

And who knows? With that many people there were no doubt a number of Voodoo worshipers who wanted to lay claim to every success. In time, it may have been Haitian santeria practitioners and others with alleged occult links who helped to fuel the story to try and bolster their own views in the eyes of the people. As time went by and different stories circulated and were dismissed, a sort of "consensus" is often reached in local folklore. Hearing some of these stories and not being too familiar with the revolution itself, a Western missionary may have just heaped everything upon "the devil's" shoulders.

But the historical record is pretty clear. There was no sort of "national" move or assembly to try and "make a pact with the devil." That's just silly. Just take a look at Robertson's confusion over who the French Emperor was at the time of the alleged event. He's off by 60+ years.

RandyWayne · #70 01-13-2010, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks

Massive sigh of relief.

lol
This was just North of the decade of the 70's when we still had people who believed that Dinosaur bones were placed in the ground as a trick of the devil...... At least in our church at the time.