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06-02-2008, 12:33 PM
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Re: Ex-Bush Spokesman: Propaganda Used to Push War
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
LOL! We shall see. I've watched the thing closely as it has unfolded, so nothing here is new news to me. I've watched McClellan as spokesman for the Bush Administration and I wondered why they had chosen him in the first place. So, really, I was on board with his "unqualified" a long time ago. 
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PO,
My dear and precious friend. May I suggest that you step out from the middle of the spin zone created by Fox News and the conservative radio personalities and be the objective person that you are?!
I know that you have been listening to folks from Limbaugh to Hannity in order to get an understanding of McClellan's motives; however, they and their cohorts have been tainted by their own motives to ever give anyone with a different opinion, story or idea a fair chance.
McClellan was only paid $75,000 for this book. People have called him greedy and made accusations that he was only looking at dollar signs when he wrote that book. Clearly, the evidence proved that it wasn't about the money.
I have sat and listened to him OBJECTIVELY and afterward I thought that since I had no proof to condemn the man of betraying the President and lying about things that he witnessed first hand and wrote in his book, then I was in no way going to say he lied and make other false accusations against him.
All those pundits and slick-tongued radio bullies have contributed to good people buying into their lies, which they have carefully formulated and manipulated to resemble truth. In other words, they have deceived many by repeating their lies over and over again that people started to believe the spin.
Actually, it was obvious to me that McClellan still cared a great deal for Bush, because each time he has been interviewed this past week he defended and stated that Bush was mislead by those he trusted in his administration.
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06-02-2008, 12:36 PM
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Re: Ex-Bush Spokesman: Propaganda Used to Push War
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Originally Posted by chosenbyone
PO,
My dear and precious friend. May I suggest that you step out from the middle of the spin zone created by Fox News and the conservative radio personalities and be the objective person that you are?!
I know that you have been listening to folks from Limbaugh to Hannity in order to get an understanding of McClellan's motives; however, they and their cohorts have been tainted by their own motives to ever give anyone with a different opinion, story or idea a fair chance.
McClellan was only paid $75,000 for this book. People have called him greedy and made accusations that he was only looking at dollar signs when he wrote that book. Clearly, the evidence proved that it wasn't about the money.
I have sat and listened to him OBJECTIVELY and afterward I thought that since I had no proof to condemn the man of betraying the President and lying about things that he witnessed first hand and wrote in his book, then I was in no way going to say he lied and make other false accusations against him.
All those pundits and slick-tongued radio bullies have contributed to good people buying into their lies, which they have carefully formulated and manipulated to resemble truth. In other words, they have deceived many by repeating their lies over and over again that people started to believe the spin.
Actually, it was obvious to me that McClellan still cared a great deal for Bush, because each time he has been interviewed this past week he defended and stated that Bush was mislead by those he trusted in his administration.
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I don't listen to Limbaugh and Hannity.
I've followed this story as research and it just looks like politics as usual. That's my take thus far.
Honestly, I don't see it as anything else.
I mean really - Janet Reno, simultaneously fired all 93 U.S. Attorneys in March 1993 under the Clinton Administration.
What's wrong with Bush firing 8? lol
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06-02-2008, 12:53 PM
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Re: Ex-Bush Spokesman: Propaganda Used to Push War
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
I don't listen to Limbaugh and Hannity.
I've followed this story as research and it just looks like politics as usual. That's my take thus far.
Honestly, I don't see it as anything else.
I mean really - Janet Reno, simultaneously fired all 93 U.S. Attorneys in March 1993 under the Clinton Administration.
What wrong with Bush firing 8? lol
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I hope you weren't offended by my previous post about where you get your information from, because clearly I was totally off on your source. Which gave me a little lead-in to mention how easy it was to make assumptions and believe they were the truth when in reality they were totally opposite than the truth.
McClellan's true intentions may have been the victim of many people's assumptions around the country. How could any of us really know this man's heart?
I am not Bush's or anyone else's judge or jury when it comes to matters such as the firing of federal employees. I am a firm believer in what my Maimaw use to say which was, "Whatever you do in the dark, will come to light". Besides, if some of the other allegations turn out to be true regarding Bush and some of his staff then the firing of those employees would fade in comparison, IMO. They will all be dealt with one way or another in time.
My prayer for today is let there peace on earth and let it begin with me....and then PO.
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Isaiah 53:5: "But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed."(KJV)
"God sends no one away empty except those who are full of themselves." Dwight L. Moody
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06-02-2008, 01:42 PM
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Re: Ex-Bush Spokesman: Propaganda Used to Push War
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Originally Posted by chosenbyone
PO,
My dear and precious friend. May I suggest that you step out from the middle of the spin zone created by Fox News and the conservative radio personalities and be the objective person that you are?!
I know that you have been listening to folks from Limbaugh to Hannity in order to get an understanding of McClellan's motives; however, they and their cohorts have been tainted by their own motives to ever give anyone with a different opinion, story or idea a fair chance.
McClellan was only paid $75,000 for this book. People have called him greedy and made accusations that he was only looking at dollar signs when he wrote that book. Clearly, the evidence proved that it wasn't about the money.
I have sat and listened to him OBJECTIVELY and afterward I thought that since I had no proof to condemn the man of betraying the President and lying about things that he witnessed first hand and wrote in his book, then I was in no way going to say he lied and make other false accusations against him.
All those pundits and slick-tongued radio bullies have contributed to good people buying into their lies, which they have carefully formulated and manipulated to resemble truth. In other words, they have deceived many by repeating their lies over and over again that people started to believe the spin.
Actually, it was obvious to me that McClellan still cared a great deal for Bush, because each time he has been interviewed this past week he defended and stated that Bush was mislead by those he trusted in his administration.
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I believe that since we'll give an account for every idle word...those who repeat the lies of the "radio bullies" are going to be found in a very sad state before the Lord. Same for those who do not take caution regarding the liberals and their propaganda. The best position is to wait and find out.
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06-02-2008, 12:29 PM
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Re: Ex-Bush Spokesman: Propaganda Used to Push War
Everything is political theatre.
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06-02-2008, 12:38 PM
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Re: Ex-Bush Spokesman: Propaganda Used to Push War
not at all just like you wont if you find out mclellan was just what i think he is, i think that is funny, what is said on this forum doesnt affect my life at all, i am here just for fun, not trying to change the world, i allready change the world every day by helping teach my step kids to be decent people, lol,dt
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06-02-2008, 12:54 PM
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Re: Ex-Bush Spokesman: Propaganda Used to Push War
By the way, I have to walk away from this pleasant exchange before I break a promise.
May God's blessings and joy be overflowing in your lives.
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Isaiah 53:5: "But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed."(KJV)
"God sends no one away empty except those who are full of themselves." Dwight L. Moody
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06-02-2008, 02:22 PM
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Re: Ex-Bush Spokesman: Propaganda Used to Push War
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Originally Posted by chosenbyone
When I stated that I had to excuse myself from this thread it wasn't because I had to go do something else, it was because I had made a promise to avoid arguing about politics. I thought that if I were to stick around, it may have ended up with you posting videos and articles bashing Obama and me doing the same with McCain.
BTW, have you heard? I don't support Obama, McCain or Clinton...I decided to stick with my original choice for President - Ron Paul! I know that you may view my voting for Paul as a throw away vote, but I believe he would make a far better leader than the other three. 
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The fact is I don’t think any candidate is uniquely Christian. The thing to consider is each individual’s policies and how they affect you and your family. I’m thinking about voting Constitution Party, Chuck Baldwin. But Baldwin stands no realistic chance of winning. Out of the two contenders Obama’s policies will be far better for my family than McCain’s. We have this tendency of saying, “If you don’t vote like me, you’re not a Christian.” I think that’s childish. We have to know the policies, the actual policies, how they will effect us, and vote for whose policies will best serve our families. Most Christians only think about two issues and don’t have a clue if that candidate’s actual policies will throw their family under the bus or something.
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06-02-2008, 02:26 PM
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Re: Ex-Bush Spokesman: Propaganda Used to Push War
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Originally Posted by Aquila
The fact is I don’t think any candidate is uniquely Christian. The thing to consider is each individual’s policies and how they affect you and your family. I’m thinking about voting Constitution Party, Chuck Baldwin. But Baldwin stands no realistic chance of winning. Out of the two contenders Obama’s policies will be far better for my family than McCain’s. We have this tendency of saying, “If you don’t vote like me, you’re not a Christian.” I think that’s childish. We have to know the policies, the actual policies, how they will effect us, and vote for whose policies will best serve our families. Most Christians only think about two issues and don’t have a clue if that candidate’s actual policies will throw their family under the bus or something.
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I'm voting for a President not a pastor.
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06-02-2008, 02:35 PM
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Re: Ex-Bush Spokesman: Propaganda Used to Push War
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I'm voting for a President not a pastor. 
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Amen. We vote for the man who we think has the best policies and move on hoping they will do their best and not cause too much damage. Democrat or Republican....neither is more righteous than the other. And sadly, while the Republicans appear to stand for things I believe in on paper, they don't act on any of those beliefs.
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