Pros/Cons of the Three-step doctrine

[LUKE2447]

Originally Posted by deltaguitar

God gives the gift of repentance. This is supported by scripture but a totally different topic.

Not going to get into how and what that means. It is used incorrectly and to the point of man can do absolutely nothing and there is no free will. Since you are a Baptist you would understand this.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by LUKE2447

Wow,again wrong. Most believe repentance is not what you do but God forces upon you when you get down to it. You need to understand the doctrine of total depravity and it's lesser spin off doctines than even Arminians follow under.

Luke,

What can you do to save yourself?


One night I was reading my Bible and I read about how GOD hardened Pharoah's heart.

It was that night that I received a deeper appreciation for the Grace of GOD!

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Luke,

What can you do to save yourself?


One night I was reading my Bible and I read about how GOD hardened Pharoah's heart.

It was that night that I received a deeper appreciation for the Grace of GOD!

How's that?

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Timmy

How's that?

Well if God hardened my heart, I would simply be unable to believe.

But by the Grace of God, I have lead to repentance.

Without His Grace, there is no repentance.

[LUKE2447]

Anyone that thinks repentance is not a work is saying so because their theology makes them come to a unbiblical position and alter the whole of what the Bible says. You must repent or everything else means nothing. Not God doing all the work in the relationship. He brought forth the provision the rest is up to you!

[staysharp]

Originally Posted by LUKE2447

Anyone that thinks repentance is not a work is saying so because their theology makes them come to a unbiblical position and alter the whole of what the Bible says. You must repent or everything else means nothing. Not God doing all the work in the relationship. He brought forth the provision the rest is up to you!

Repentance is a gift from God. It is His goodness that leads us to repentance. Without the Holy Spirit convicting our hearts, we would not even understand our need to repent.


Romans 2:4 (New International Version)
4Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, tolerance and patience, not realizing that God's kindness leads you toward repentance?

John 16:8
When he comes, he will convict the world of guilt in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment:

[Hoovie]

Very good Sam and Mow. I appreciate your posts here.

I cannot say my own experience differs from yours. While I know some wonderful OP Christian people, I know many who exemplify Christian living and show the love of Christ who are not Oneness Pentecostal at all. I count them as nothing less then brothers and sisters in the Lord.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

Very good Sam and Mow. I appreciate your posts here.

I cannot say my own experience differs from yours. While I know some wonderful OP Christian people, I know many who exemplify Christian living and show the love of Christ who are not Oneness Pentecostal at all. I count them as nothing less then brothers and sisters in the Lord.

I know many wonderful people that are honest and kind and great neighbors and family and I appreciate them however to be a brother or sister you MUST be born again Jn.3:5 & Acts 2:38. NO one is in the church without a New Father that comes from a new birth. Salvation is NOT by works but by birth.

[Light]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I know many wonderful people that are honest and kind and great neighbors and family and I appreciate them however to be a brother or sister you MUST be born again Jn.3:5 & Acts 2:38. NO one is in the church without a New Father that comes from a new birth. Salvation is NOT by works but by birth.

So true. New birth only comes from obeying Gods command that Peter repeated on the day of Pentecost Acts 2:38. There will be no one in heaven who has not obeyed this command.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Light

So true. New birth only comes from obeying Gods command that Peter repeated on the day of Pentecost Acts 2:38. There will be no one in heaven who has not obeyed this command.

Amen.