Tattoos

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by notofworks

Well, see there? Like Cindy said...those poor mis-guided people that don't agree with us!

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by notofworks

Not if you disagree with me!

Still

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by Cindy

Still

I can't!!!!

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by notofworks

I can't!!!!

That guy is just wrong on so many levels.

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by Cindy

That guy is just wrong on so many levels.

Which is what makes it so funny!! My other new favorite is:

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by notofworks

Which is what makes it so funny!! My other new favorite is:

Oh yeah, happy feet.

I like this one:

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by Cindy

Oh yeah, happy feet.

I like this one:

I love how these threads take journeys.

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey

Paul's point is we shouldn't sin with our bodies. We house the Spirit of the Lord. We are his Meeting place. A living, breathing, moving tabernacle.

Whose denying this?

However the fact is our bodies are still the temple of the Holy Ghost. I don't think God wants us looking like some freaks or like a camilion (like that guy who had his who face tatooed). I don't think it brings glory to God when we have folks runing around looking like Todd Bentley.

Just because some folks preach against tatoos and such, but over eat doesn't mean their wrong preaching against those things. Their error is only that they aren't preaching the whole council of God, only things THEY are comfortable with.

Am I saying God doesn't save people with tatooos-absolutely not (duh, hopefully I have a better reputation than that around here), but I don't think he saves us for us to do that to ourselves POST-salvation.

I am willing to say all tatoos are sin, I don't know that I would go that far, but to me it certainly seems unwise. I don't think you'd go to hell for getting one even after your a Christian (I don't believe salvation is that fickle that you do one thing and pass from justification to condemnation). But I do think the argument that we are the temple of the Holy Ghost is VALID.

FINE, I get it, man made standards are not Bible based, their legalsitic, and all that good stuff, it turn salvation into works (on some level). AMEN, no argument here. But I think we fool ourselves to say God cares absolutely nothing about the outside.

In response to Jeffery's post (and NOW's amen) I say, no one is doubting that we shouldn't use the body for sin. I think 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, Galatians 5:19-21 are quite clear on the things that we shoudln't do.

That said, I still believe the Bible gives us principles. Does the bible say not to smoke dope? Its legal in part in california. I have a friend whose mother very much considers herself a Christian, who teaches SS, and is all kinds of involved in her church (not oneness) but smokes pot. "My friend says, whats the harm in it, its not like cocaine or LSD, it just chills you out, plus its legal. Wheres the Bible say you can't smoke pot, it a natural substance?"

I don't know, maybe some of you believe in dope smokin' Christians, I don't. But if we apply the same logic many are applying in this thread, there is no Biblical response against it.

I don't believe that "holiness" is all about dress (I don't believe its hardly any about dress) but the Bible still says to dress modestly. I don't think 1 Corinthians 11 says a woman can't cut or trim her hair birth to death, but it still says a woman should have long hair.

Personally I think there is too much whittling down the word of God. I don't want legalism or salvation by works, but neither do I want Christianity Lite. It seems to me that alot of people simply won't stand for anything.

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

Whose denying this?

However the fact is our bodies are still the temple of the Holy Ghost. I don't think God wants us looking like some freaks or like a camilion (like that guy who had his who face tatooed). I don't think it brings glory to God when we have folks runing around looking like Todd Bentley.

Just because some folks preach against tatoos and such, but over eat doesn't mean their wrong preaching against those things. Their error is only that they aren't preaching the whole council of God, only things THEY are comfortable with.

Am I saying God doesn't save people with tatooos-absolutely not (duh, hopefully I have a better reputation than that around here), but I don't think he saves us for us to do that to ourselves POST-salvation.

I am willing to say all tatoos are sin, I don't know that I would go that far, but to me it certainly seems unwise. I don't think you'd go to hell for getting one even after your a Christian (I don't believe salvation is that fickle that you do one thing and pass from justification to condemnation). But I do think the argument that we are the temple of the Holy Ghost is VALID.

FINE, I get it, man made standards are not Bible based, their legalsitic, and all that good stuff, it turn salvation into works (on some level). AMEN, no argument here. But I think we fool ourselves to say God cares absolutely nothing about the outside.

In response to Jeffery's post (and NOW's amen) I say, no one is doubting that we shouldn't use the body for sin. I think 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, Galatians 5:19-21 are quite clear on the things that we shoudln't do.

That said, I still believe the Bible gives us principles. Does the bible say not to smoke dope? Its legal in part in california. I have a friend whose mother very much considers herself a Christian, who teaches SS, and is all kinds of involved in her church (not oneness) but smokes pot. "My friend says, whats the harm in it, its not like cocaine or LSD, it just chills you out, plus its legal. Wheres the Bible say you can't smoke pot, it a natural substance?"

I don't know, maybe some of you believe in dope smokin' Christians, I don't. But if we apply the same logic many are applying in this thread, there is no Biblical response against it.

I don't believe that "holiness" is all about dress (I don't believe its hardly any about dress) but the Bible still says to dress modestly. I don't think 1 Corinthians 11 says a woman can't cut or trim her hair birth to death, but it still says a woman should have long hair.

Personally I think there is too much whittling down the word of God. I don't want legalism or salvation by works, but neither do I want Christianity Lite. It seems to me that alot of people simply won't stand for anything.

Bottom line is, though, if you're going to proclaim it "Wrong" you need some scriptural backing. You said a lot but I didn't see any scriptural backing. You said you think it's "Unwise." Fine. You just might be right in the context of which you're speaking. But others may not feel that way and ultimately, this has to be a personal decision.

Either it's wrong or it's ok and if it's wrong, cite the scripture(s) with which you come to that conclusion.

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by notofworks

Bottom line is, though, if you're going to proclaim it "Wrong" you need some scriptural backing. You said a lot but I didn't see any scriptural backing. You said you think it's "Unwise." Fine. You just might be right in the context of which you're speaking. But others may not feel that way and ultimately, this has to be a personal decision.

Either it's wrong or it's ok and if it's wrong, cite the scripture(s) with which you come to that conclusion.

NOW,

I'd have to cite the Leviticus scripture as well as the scriptures in the new testament about being the temple of the Holy Ghost, as well as some in Romans 6 about living unto God.

But ultimately, I would think this falls into the Romans 14 category. It something I wouldn't do, and would discourage others not to do, but I'm not going to judge someone over it or break fellowship over it. I've got to answer to God for my own decision, I'll let everyone who claims to be a Christian stand before God for themselves. Its not my job to judge another mans servant. HOWEVER, if I'm teaching/preaching on it, I'm am teaching against it based on biblical prinicples.