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Old 01-11-2008, 05:22 PM
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Biblical Hair Study

(Jer 7:29) Cut off thine hair, O Jerusalem, and cast it away, and take up a lamentation on high places; for the LORD hath rejected and forsaken the generation of his wrath.

Why did the prophet tell Jerusalem to cut off her hair? Because she was a spiritual harlot and would not be faithful or obedient to her husband Jehovah. And just so that everyone that saw Jerusalem would know that she was a spiritual harlot the prophet told her to cut off her hair and cast it from thee. It is very possible that Paul had this scripture in mind when he wrote (I Co 11).


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(I Co 11:6) For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shornκείρω) but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn (keiro) or shaven, let her be covered.


***Enhanced Strong's Lexicon:
2751 κείρω [keiro /ki·ro/] v. A primary verb; GK 3025; Four occurrences; AV translates as “shear” three times, and “shearer” once. 1 to sheer: a sheep. 2 to get or let be shorn. 3 of shearing or cutting short the hair of the head.


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SHEAR, SHEARER, SHORN
keiro (κείρω, 2751) is used (a) of “shearing sheep,” Acts 8:32, “shearer,” lit., “the (one) shearing”: (b) in the middle voice, “to have one’s hair cut off, be shorn,” Acts 18:18; 1 Cor. 11:6


***DBL Greek:

3025 κείρω (keirō): vb.; ≡ Str 2751—LN 19.23 cut hair, shear (another), (Ac 8:32+); (dep.) to have one’s hair cut (Ac 18:18; 1Co 11:6(2×)+)


NASB Dictionaries
2751.***************κείρω keirō; a prim. vb.; to shear:— cut(1), hair cut off(2), shearer(1).

Thayer's Greek English Lexicon

keirw Acts 18:18; absolutely, of shearing or cutting short the hair of the head, 1 Corinthians 11:6 (cf. Winer’s Grammar, sec. 43, 1).*


Louw, & Nida

88.150 αἰσχρός, ά, όν: pertaining to behaving in a disgraceful or shameful manner—‘disgraceful, shameful.’ εἰ δὲ αἰσχρὸν γυναικὶ τὸ κείρασθαι ἢ ξυρᾶσθαι, κατακαλυπτέσθω ‘since it is shameful for a woman to shave or cut her hair, she should cover her head’ 1 Cor 11:6.


Dr. M.D. Treece of Lake Charles, LA. was a UPC pastor and a Greek scholar. He was in Dallas, TX. many years ago teaching on the hair issue. I happened to be in that service and I still have his original handout from his teaching that night. Here is (I Co 11:6) from that handout.

(I Co 11:6) For if a women (is) not covered, let her be sheared, (or cut) but if (it is) a disgrace for a women to be sheared or shaved, let her continue being covered.

He also said that the word “continue” in the Greek meant to continue to let the hair grow. He said that meant not to cut the hair.

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Old 01-11-2008, 05:47 PM
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Doubtful you'll get many replies Bro. (at least not many positive) But for the record I LOVE IT!
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Doubtful you'll get many replies Bro. (at least not many positive) But for the record I LOVE IT!
Well maybe at least they will quit trying to say it's not scriptural.
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Great post Rev.
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And for those who want to say, "Well, it is a shame, but not a sin," you ought to do a word study on that Greek word, and look at some of the other places words translated shame are used, words from that same root.

And see if that is the company you want to keep.
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And for those who want to say, "Well, it is a shame, but not a sin," you ought to do a word study on that Greek word, and look at some of the other places words translated shame are used, words from that same root.

And see if that is the company you want to keep.
I've seen them. Might make them a part of another post! You could do that!
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Dr. M.D. Treece of Lake Charles, LA. was a UPC pastor and a Greek scholar. He was in Dallas, TX. many years ago teaching on the hair issue. I happened to be in that service and I still have his original handout from his teaching that night. Here is (I Co 11:6) from that handout.

(I Co 11:6) For if a women (is) not covered, let her be sheared, (or cut) but if (it is) a disgrace for a women to be sheared or shaved, let her continue being covered.

He also said that the word “continue” in the Greek meant to continue to let the hair grow. He said that meant not to cut the hair.

We can add more later!
What translation is he using there? I went through several and found none that had the word "continue" in this verse.

The Amphlified Bible has a rather complicated wording that seems to be an attempt to elucidate the Greek text:

"...be letting her be covered [or, veiled]."

The word "continue" does not not appear in this verse in Greek or English. Perhaps it's Brother Treece's addition to emphasize the verb tenses like the Amplified Bible has done?

Does the handout give us any info about the translation he is using, or proposing?
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What translation is he using there? I went through several and found none that had the word "continue" in this verse.

The Amphlified Bible has a rather complicated wording that seems to be an attempt to elucidate the Greek text:

"...be letting her be covered [or, veiled]."

The word "continue" does not not appear in this verse in Greek or English. Perhaps it's Brother Treece's addition to emphasize the verb tenses like the Amplified Bible has done?

Does the handout give us any info about the translation he is using, or proposing?
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I think we have had books written on hair from this forum and past forums...
Wonder if anyone ever changed their mind or their opinion? Kinda like the women preacher threads or wine or grape juice christmas celebrations or no christmas ...We all have our opinion what the Bible teaches and what issues are heaven and hell issues...I just pray that where ever I am failing the Judge will show me mercy.

I hope HE is not as hard and cutting as some people I have met along life's climb....
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