Limits In Healing

[jediwill83]

I got this idea for a topic a few days ago but I have been a little too distracted to really put a whole lot of effort into this.

Here goes.

What are the limits of healing?

I know we serve a God that's totally limitless in His power but are there things people pray for where He just goes, "Nope."

For example.

Things like mental retardation, Down Syndrome, Autism, Cerebral Palsy.

I was born with crippled feet that God miraculously healed at my baby dedication but my mother has Cerebral Palsy.

Why is there that difference?

Is it a matter of faith or is it something else?

Guys, God has been doing amazing things in my familys life so I'm not suffering from any doubt of any kind.

I'm just curious about what is the most extreme miraculous occurance you guys have been a part of or heard of that is credible.

I'm really exploring the idea of faith and I'm digging deep.

My great grandmother was resurrected from death and I've seen broken limbs healed.

Has anyone seen or heard of limbs growing back?

God healed Kat of a severe 4 day migraine instantly and later that day she got a bad sinus headache that was healed instantly after being annointed and with prayer.


A few days ago she woke up with severe back pain barely able to walk and she also was born with Spina Bifida, I annointed and prayer for her and by 10 minutes later pain totally gone.

I'm nothing y'all but I know I serve a great big limitless God.

I'm just wanting some good back and forth discussion and digging on this and see where it goes.

[CC1]

Before you talk about healing you have to talk about what folks need healing from. I think it is important to remember that when people who believe differently than you get ill (particularly those who used to believe like you but no longer do) it is because of their sin. However when folks who believe like you get ill they are just godly folks suffering through a trial.

[jediwill83]

I see what you did there...

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by CC1

Before you talk about healing you have to talk about what folks need healing from. I think it is important to remember that when people who believe differently than you get ill (particularly those who used to believe like you but no longer do) it is because of their sin. However when folks who believe like you get ill they are just godly folks suffering through a trial.

What a boor.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by jediwill83

I got this idea for a topic a few days ago but I have been a little too distracted to really put a whole lot of effort into this.

Here goes.

What are the limits of healing?

I know we serve a God that's totally limitless in His power but are there things people pray for where He just goes, "Nope."

For example.

Things like mental retardation, Down Syndrome, Autism, Cerebral Palsy.

I was born with crippled feet that God miraculously healed at my baby dedication but my mother has Cerebral Palsy.

Why is there that difference?

Is it a matter of faith or is it something else?

Guys, God has been doing amazing things in my familys life so I'm not suffering from any doubt of any kind.

I'm just curious about what is the most extreme miraculous occurance you guys have been a part of or heard of that is credible.

I'm really exploring the idea of faith and I'm digging deep.

My great grandmother was resurrected from death and I've seen broken limbs healed.

Has anyone seen or heard of limbs growing back?

God healed Kat of a severe 4 day migraine instantly and later that day she got a bad sinus headache that was healed instantly after being annointed and with prayer.


A few days ago she woke up with severe back pain barely able to walk and she also was born with Spina Bifida, I annointed and prayer for her and by 10 minutes later pain totally gone.

I'm nothing y'all but I know I serve a great big limitless God.

I'm just wanting some good back and forth discussion and digging on this and see where it goes.

Since God can heal anything, but doesn't heal everything, it follows that the limiting factor is His Will. Since healing is subject to the Will of God, and since we cannot guarantee that we always know with absolutely correct certainly what the Will of God is for any given situation, it follows that we will "not know why" things happen (or don't) in many situations.

[houston]

God didn't heal me, so I don't believe in healing. Thank God for medicine.

[jediwill83]

TW Barnes begged God to heal his dying sister...He didn't and she died.

He went on to have one of the most amazing healing ministries of the modern church in my opinion.

I've learned just in my own life that just because God doesn't do something doesn't mean that He won't or can't.

What I'm really looking for is a sort of upper limit to Gods behavior when it comes to healing and miracles.

NOT a upper limit to His ability.

I love the philosophical aspects of this kind of discussion but I'm wanting to get away from the theoretical a bit and move into actual miracles that have taken place.

I'm not wanting to discuss what could He do but more of what HAS He done.

If He's done it once it's a good possibility He will do it again so if I can get a idea of previous action and behavior as it applies to healing that's the info I'm looking for.

Please forgive me if I'm seeming dense or if I'm beating a dead horse....But I've become a bit obsessed as of late and I can't seem to shake some of these nagging itches in my curiosity and my spirit...I feel like I'm following a trail of breadcrumbs and at the end of this trail is a deeper personal understanding of who He is.

I don't think that these urges are coincidence and I don't think they are pointless to pursue.

Let's keep this going but for now I gotta feed a grumpy baby.lol

[Amanah]

When my son was about 10 or 11 a purple growth came up on his shoulder.
I took him to the doctor and they surgically removed it.

Not long after it came back twice as big, it made me angry.
I told him we were going to pray and believe God for healing.
I rebuked it in Jesus name and commanded it to fall off his body.

It fell off and never came back.

[Amanah]

vipers and snipers
pouters and doubters
do withouters

[n david]

This is a subject I fight with a lot. It's something I struggle with and do not understand. It has caused bouts of unbelief and depression.

I know God can heal. I know God has healed.

My mother was healed. My father has been healed. I have had healing in my body as well.

Just last week, an A/C company sent a man to check up on work they did at my parent's house. The man they sent has partial paralysis of his face and neck. He came to the house and told my father, "They told me you were a preacher. I want you to pray for me to be healed." This was a repair man. My father is 85 years old and still has more energy than I sometimes do. The man told my father, "God said he's not done with you." My father prayed for the man, nothing happened. They spoke for a while about God, faith and healing. The next morning the man called my father, "I went to bed last night with my face still paralyzed, but when I woke up this morning, I felt something different. I looked in the mirror and my face is completely healed!"

So I know God heals.

What I don't understand, and what causes a lot of struggle, disappointment and even some depression in the past is why He chooses to heal some and not others. Why is God quick to answer and heal some, but turn His ear away and not answer the prayers to heal others.

I have a dear friend who is one of the most dedicated and Godly men I know. For the past 20 years, he's been dealing with seizures. Not a day goes by without him having one or more seizures. He's been on various medications. He's had an implant to try to shock the brain before the seizures start. He's seen well over a dozen different Drs and specialists. He's been on so many different medications. He's been in and out of the hospital. Last week he was in ICU for a day after getting an infection where the implant was place. After the implant was removed, he had continuous seizures for over an hour until they were able to find some medication which gave some relief.

Yet to talk with him and to read his posts on FB, it'd be hard to find a more faithful, believing and optimistic person than he. After 20 years, I honestly would probably be ready to give up by now. I doubt I could be as faithful as my friend is after dealing with this for so long.

The Bible is filled with examples of Jesus and the disciples healing all manner of sickness and disease. I don't find anywhere in the Bible where Jesus either didn't heal someone or told them to "pray for God's will to be done." I hate that phrase. Someone's sick -- oh let's pray for "God's will" to be done. As though God wants them to remain sick or diseased.

I'm tired of moral victories. You know, people who have cancer or some disease, but through chemo or other procedures or medications, their body is healed. I want to experience the healings of the NT. I want more of what happened with the repair man. Healings which cannot be explained or credited to medications or medical procedures. I want to experience the healings which happen every day in foreign countries. The blind eyes opened. The deaf ears opened. The dead raised. The tumors falling off.

It bothers me when I pray for healing and it doesn't happen. I truly expect healing to happen when I pray for healing. And when it doesn't happen, honestly, I am very bothered by it. Like Bro. Weston Blankenship preached, I'm tired of the definition, I'm ready for the demonstration. I agree with him that too many children of God's medicine cabinet's look no different than those who are lost.

It bothers me.