100% tithe receiving pastors and the IRS - DANGEROUS

ManOfWord · #1 07-13-2007, 01:24 PM

From what I have studied and know a little about tax law, pastors who believe that they should receive ALL the tithes from their churches are in a dangerous situation. If they indeed, receive ALL of the tithes, no matter how much or how little it was or what it was spent on, they are liable for the taxes due on the entire amount.

If those who believe they should receive all the tithes want to be consistent, honest and forthright, they should file their taxes with the entire amount as income. Failure to do so will be considered tax evasion and fraud.

So, feeling lucky today...punk?

How much of a chance are you willing to take?

BTW, to keep some of you out of jail, this poll is private!

SDG · #2 07-13-2007, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ManOfWord

From what I have studied and know a little about tax law, pastors who believe that they should receive ALL the tithes from their churches are in a dangerous situation. If they indeed, receive ALL of the tithes, no matter how much or how little it was or what it was spent on, they are liable for the taxes due on the entire amount.

If those who believe they should receive all the tithes want to be consistent, honest and forthright, they should file their taxes with the entire amount as income. Failure to do so will be considered tax evasion and fraud.

So, feeling lucky today...punk?

How much of a chance are you willing to take?

If you can't get an "amen" ... get an "ouch".

Pressing-On · #3 07-13-2007, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ManOfWord

From what I have studied and know a little about tax law, pastors who believe that they should receive ALL the tithes from their churches are in a dangerous situation. If they indeed, receive ALL of the tithes, no matter how much or how little it was or what it was spent on, they are liable for the taxes due on the entire amount.

If those who believe they should receive all the tithes want to be consistent, honest and forthright, they should file their taxes with the entire amount as income. Failure to do so will be considered tax evasion and fraud.

So, feeling lucky today...punk?

How much of a chance are you willing to take?

BTW, to keep some of you out of jail, this poll is private!

chseeads · #4 07-13-2007, 01:29 PM

What are they supposed to pay tax on otherwise (if the scenario is different from what you stated in the opening post)?

I don't know anything about preacher taxes.

#5 07-13-2007, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by chseeads

What are they supposed to pay tax on otherwise (if the scenario is different from what you stated in the opening post)?

I don't know anything about preacher taxes.

Aren't you a preacher?

ManOfWord · #6 07-13-2007, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by chseeads

What are they supposed to pay tax on otherwise (if the scenario is different from what you stated in the opening post)?

I don't know anything about preacher taxes.

They are supposed to pay taxes on what they RECEIVE. If a pastor receives ALL of the tithes in say a 500 family church, with the average family tithing $5k, that would be, 2.5 million $$.

My point is that VERY, VERY few pastors, if any, who believe in receiving ALL the church's tithes, report it and pay taxes on it. They are lying and deceiving.

If they believe it, that is fine. Just be consistent and claim it and pay taxes on it.

SDG · #7 07-13-2007, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ManOfWord

They are supposed to pay taxes on what they RECEIVE. If a pastor receives ALL of the tithes in say a 500 family church, with the average family tithing $5k, that would be, 2.5 million $$.

My point is that VERY, VERY few pastors, if any, who believe in receiving ALL the church's tithes, report it and pay taxes on it. They are lying and deceiving.

If they believe it, that is fine. Just be consistent and claim it and pay taxes on it.

They are to first to quote Jesus' words ... to render unto Caesar what is Caesar's ... and to God ... what is God's.

#8 07-13-2007, 01:38 PM

SHOW US THE LAW!

OP_Carl · #9 07-13-2007, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by chseeads

. . . preacher taxes.

Now there's a good idea. Preacher taxes. The preacher gets taxed $500 for every minute he preaches past an hour!

$1000/minute on weeknights!

This is a difficult situation. The Fair Tax, as proposed by Neal Boortz, would solve these dilemmas. Meanwhile, while we are waiting for the tax code to change (

), the answer is education. Those who resist it up front will get the more expensive sort before long. This is just one more benefit of an organization!

While I support the concept of the preacher taking all the tithe, it ought to be channelled through the church books and paid as a salary to simplify the legal risks. Realistically, churches can't afford to pay the entire sum designated as tithe to the pastor and still keep the lights on and the doors open, so it ends up being a percentage or a fixed number.

ManOfWord · #10 07-13-2007, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by OP_Carl

Now there's a good idea. Preacher taxes. The preacher gets taxed $500 for every minute he preaches past an hour!

$1000/minute on weeknights!

Realistically, churches can't afford to pay the entire sum designated as tithe to the pastor and still keep the lights on and the doors open, so it ends up being a percentage or a fixed number.

This is exactly what some have been trying to say.

But if those who believe that it REALLY should go to the pastor, then it's just "tough noogies" for the church!! They'll just have to cough up some more money to pay the bills!