For all the "one steppers"...

[Phil Stearns]

Many of you are fond of saying that there is no proof of anyone being saved by the 3 steps of Acts 2:38 in the past 1800-1900 years, before the turn of the 20th century back to the apostolic era. Right?

My question to you would be, do you have any proof of anyone being saved by simply "believing" or "justification by faith" before the Protestant Reformation? By your reasoning no one was saved during the Dark Ages or from the post apostolic era to the Reformation because there is no record of it on a large scale.

[Timmy]

Can you prove anyone was saved in the 20th or 21st Century, using whatever steps you want to specify?

[Phil Stearns]

Originally Posted by Timmy

Can you prove anyone was saved in the 20th or 21st Century, using whatever steps you want to specify?

Nope.

[CC1]

Phil can be so stern....er... Stearns.

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by Timmy

Can you prove anyone was saved in the 20th or 21st Century, using whatever steps you want to specify?

Note that in order to do so, you must prove all of the following (and maybe some I forgot):

1. You know the correct step(s).

2. You know that the candidate has correctly performed every step.

3. You know that God did not reject the candidate for some reason -- any reason. He's God. He can do anything He wants and there's nothing you can do about it. He answers a whole lot of prayers with a "no", after all. What will stop Him from rejecting an attempt at getting saved?

[Timmy]

Oops, I'm too slow! He already conceded!

[Phil Stearns]

Originally Posted by Timmy

Can you prove anyone was saved in the 20th or 21st Century, using whatever steps you want to specify?

No, but it has not been my argument that the lack of proof indicates that the Acts 2:38 message was not preached and therefore no one was saved for approximately 1800 years.

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by Phil Stearns

No, but it has not been my argument that the lack of proof indicates that the Acts 2:38 message was not preached and therefore no one was saved for approximately 1800 years.

Ten four.

[Phil Stearns]

Originally Posted by Timmy

Oops, I'm too slow! He already conceded!

[Jack Shephard]

Timmy kind of beat me to it. I was ask if there is any verification of ANYONE ever making heaven? I mean there is no long distance carrier that could cover that call of confirmation.