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12-01-2008, 08:58 AM
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One of the Biggest Mistakes
I think one of the biggest mistakes that the UPC makes is the emphasis on church, church, church rather than family. People are expected to come bare minimum of 3 services a week, just so they are not "forsaking the assembling" and then there are the bible studies, door knocking, bake sales, singing, etc. etc. etc. on top of it all. I have heard it said that some pastors emphasize a family night one night a week (mine did not). So, are the other 6 to be used for church?? There is little teaching on marriage, family, balance etc. Alsmot all the teaching, in my experience, is on Acts 2:38, going to church, winning the lost, giving and giving and giving to the church.
I don't think it has ever been God's will for people to spend so much time at church and doing church things. We need to focus on our families, our kids, our marriages, our work etc. This is the work of God. That should not be forgotten.
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12-01-2008, 09:02 AM
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Re: One of the Biggest Mistakes
And you think this is only stressed in UPC churches? Baptists, Methosdists, etc. are just the same.
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12-01-2008, 09:27 AM
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Re: One of the Biggest Mistakes
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And you think this is only stressed in UPC churches? Baptists, Methosdists, etc. are just the same.
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UPC is my church experience. I have been going to a non-denominational one for about 3 years now and haven't experienced that to the same extent.
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12-02-2008, 12:52 AM
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Re: One of the Biggest Mistakes
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UPC is my church experience. I have been going to a non-denominational one for about 3 years now and haven't experienced that to the same extent.
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Yeah? well, Ive been going to a UPC church for 32 years and have not experienced that either.
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12-02-2008, 05:22 AM
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Re: One of the Biggest Mistakes
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Yeah? well, Ive been going to a UPC church for 32 years and have not experienced that either.
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No need to be so combative here, MBNM. She's shared her experience, you've shared yours, everyone is happy.
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12-02-2008, 11:03 AM
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Re: One of the Biggest Mistakes
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No need to be so combative here, MBNM. She's shared her experience, you've shared yours, everyone is happy.
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Not being combative. Sorry it came accross that way. Just pointing out the other side.
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12-01-2008, 09:36 AM
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Re: One of the Biggest Mistakes
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And you think this is only stressed in UPC churches? Baptists, Methosdists, etc. are just the same.
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But most of us only know or remember the UPCI.
If we were Baptist we would speak from that experience.
Just because a group of organizations continue to do it does not make it OK...
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12-01-2008, 11:17 AM
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Re: One of the Biggest Mistakes
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But most of us only know or remember the UPCI.
If we were Baptist we would speak from that experience.
Just because a group of organizations continue to do it does not make it OK...
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I grew up in a UPC church, my Mom would not miss church. It was never stressed from the pulpit.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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12-02-2008, 06:05 AM
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Re: One of the Biggest Mistakes
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I grew up in a UPC church, my Mom would not miss church. It was never stressed from the pulpit.
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I knew pastor's that would follow up with folks when the missed.
Just to ask about their missed offering or tithe...
People always looked at us weird whenever we missed...
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12-02-2008, 06:28 AM
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Re: One of the Biggest Mistakes
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I knew pastor's that would follow up with folks when the missed.
Just to ask about their missed offering or tithe...
People always looked at us weird whenever we missed...
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We have people in our assembly who do the same. One lady looks at us condesendingly and says" we missed you" with that" you backslider" tone of voice .
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