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Old 09-15-2007, 05:37 PM
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License Question

I have not been on here all that long and this may have been discussed before, but....

For those licensed with the UPCI or other Op organizations I have a question for you. In the applying process does the application ask if your wife or daughers have ever cut their hair and if so when was the last time they did so?

The reason I ask is at one time I was thinking of applying to be a evangelist with the ALJC and the license asked these questions. I did not apply needless to say. I do not feel it is any of their business, but what it really does it force you to lie or not apply. I do not have a problem with the not applying, but the lying is different. I know good and well there are UPCI churches and ALJC churches the the pastors women cut their hair, but yet on the application they say no that the women don't. They also ask about your prayer life including the days and times of the praying.

I think that these are stupid things to ask. What say ye?
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Old 09-15-2007, 05:47 PM
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I think that these are stupid things to ask. What say ye?
Stupid for you to ask- or stupid to ask on an application?

When I applied for the right and privilage to drive a car in California, it said I will obey the speed laws. If I then take liberty and drive faster than the posted limit, or outside the lines, I lose that right.

The obligation for uncut hair is no diferent than 52 Big Screen "monitors" or any other myriad of topics that a man could lie about on the application.

Boils down to integrity, committment and burden instead of wanting a huge paycheck.

The trouble with your question is we then get all kinds of dumb answers whether or not cut hair is correct. Not answers to your question. Maybe I did not do any better.

I sure tried.

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Old 09-15-2007, 05:57 PM
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I was licensed with the ALJC back in the nineteen seventies. I don't remember any question like that.

I've been licensed with a couple of other OP organizations and don't remember any question like that.

I've never been licensed with the UPC so I don't know what they ask.
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Old 09-15-2007, 06:02 PM
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I was licensed with the ALJC back in the nineteen seventies. I don't remember any question like that.

I've been licensed with a couple of other OP organizations and don't remember any question like that.

I've never been licensed with the UPC so I don't know what they ask.
It was on the evangelist application.
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Old 09-15-2007, 06:04 PM
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here it is

http://www.aljcevangelists.com/app.pdf
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Old 09-15-2007, 06:17 PM
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Yes this is the ALJC evangelist application. But it is not the application for license/credentials with the organization.

The ALJC actually has evangelists that it supports from its headquarters..they are denominationally endorsed and supported. Guarantteed salary type of thing.

The reason that it asks the Hair question is because of the differing views across the nation.

I used to have one of their license applications but can't find it right now. I don't remember if it asks or not. I believe it was very similar to the UPC application.
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Stupid for you to ask- or stupid to ask on an application?

When I applied for the right and privilage to drive a car in California, it said I will obey the speed laws. If I then take liberty and drive faster than the posted limit, or outside the lines, I lose that right.

The obligation for uncut hair is no diferent than 52 Big Screen "monitors" or any other myriad of topics that a man could lie about on the application.

Boils down to integrity, committment and burden instead of wanting a huge paycheck.

The trouble with your question is we then get all kinds of dumb answers whether or not cut hair is correct. Not answers to your question. Maybe I did not do any better.

I sure tried.

Good point BOOMM. If I want the license I must conform to the application process and rules for membership whether it's a preacher's, medical, drivers, or whatever kind of license even if they ask questions I might find to be "stupid".
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Good point BOOMM. If I want the license I must conform to the application process and rules for membership whether it's a preacher's, medical, drivers, or whatever kind of license even if they ask questions I might find to be "stupid".
You think it is a good point....eh. The truth is you have to say that you will obey the speed limit but as everyone knows NO ONE OBEYS THEM!!!!

I agree the idea behind the example was nice but bad example cause many people speed. Just like many people sign these things improperly.
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You think it is a good point....eh. The truth is you have to say that you will obey the speed limit but as everyone knows NO ONE OBEYS THEM!!!!

I agree the idea behind the example was nice but bad example cause many people speed. Just like many people sign these things improperly.
Yes and you will loose your license if you repeatedly speed or pay fines if you get caught.
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Yes and you will loose your license if you repeatedly speed or pay fines if you get caught.
If I had said in 1995 I wanted to watch the SuperBowl (I did not look who was playing) and so wanted a TV, it would be not long that I would receive a letter requesting my appearance before the District Board.

Recently we have heard of many who have not only been called in , but were given prior permisssion to be ON TV.

Opps, this was about cut hair.
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