Just wondering, when you sin, is it really you that's sinning, or is it the sin that lives inside you?
Hmmmmmm, same to ponder. Is it really you that cracks me up ? or is it the crack inside you ?
__________________ You can't reach the world with your talents. People are sick and tired of religious talents. People need a Holy Ghost annointed church with real fruits to reach out and touch their lives. ~ Pastor Burrell Crabtree
In fact I think that the insinuation of "hateful" Pentecostals is coming mostly from the fertile imaginations of bitter, backslidden ex Apostolics who are constantly trying to find a way to justify their actions. ~ strait shooter
Any good work I do is Christ working through me. I can take no credit for it.
Any love that I show toward a stranger is Christ working in me. I can take no credit for it.
I do not believe a person can have "outward" or "inward" righteousness apart from Christ. They may attempt to produce good deeds, but without a regenerated heart, they are wayward, rebellious and broken.
Walk in the Spirit. Trust on, rely in, depend on the Spirit. When we don't do that, we walk in the flesh and fulfill its lust, which just gets us into a mess.
MB, you are right that Marty is confusing salvation and justification. And Paul never left it with a "quit doing this." His letters are robust in "how" we can cease acting like dead people.
Any good work I do is Christ working through me. I can take no credit for it.
Any love that I show toward a stranger is Christ working in me. I can take no credit for it.
I do not believe a person can have "outward" or "inward" righteousness apart from Christ. They may attempt to produce good deeds, but without a regenerated heart, they are wayward, rebellious and broken.
Walk in the Spirit. Trust on, rely in, depend on the Spirit. When we don't do that, we walk in the flesh and fulfill its lust, which just gets us into a mess.
MB, you are right that Marty is confusing salvation and justification. And Paul never left it with a "quit doing this." His letters are robust in "how" we can cease acting like dead people.
So true. Whatever happened to "All our righteousness is as filthy rags."
The Apostle Paul couldn't live a completely sinless life with the HG, much less without it.
I did not check out the blog, but for the purpose of fairness in an attack thread we really do need to know what the author means by "stop sinning". There is more than one definition and it could explain a lot.
__________________ "It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
I did not check out the blog, but for the purpose of fairness in an attack thread we really do need to know what the author means by "stop sinning". There is more than one definition and it could explain a lot.
I strongly recommend you reading the blog. It's pretty plain.
The snippets I posted are a fair representation.
And this thread wasn't started to attack Marty Ballestero. Not even about him personally. It's about this bogus representation of the Gospel, which I called "false doctrine."
The whole "get good to get God" has discouraged untold despondent souls over the years. Mired deep in sin, they simply can't imagine mustering the strength to lift themselves from their moral morass. So they don't try. If they only knew that it's God that makes us new creatures, not us.
I strongly recommend you reading the blog. It's pretty plain.
The snippets I posted are a fair representation.
And this thread wasn't started to attack Marty Ballestero. Not even about his personally. It's about this bogus representation of the Gospel, which I called "false doctrine."
Yes, it is plain. I tried to read something else into it, but could not.
Even a Dummy can quit.
No experience required.
No 12-step program required.
WHAT DO I DO?
The First thing you must do is Repent. Ask the Lord Jesus to forgive you!
Then quit sinning.
Isn’t that overly simplistic? NO! It’s exactly what the Bible says to do.
1. I am not so sure he is saying it can be done without Jesus nor without the Holy Ghost (I think his reference is to Holy Spirit Baptism, and not the Spirit of God working in and with the repentant candidate)
2. It seems clear to me he prefaces "quitting" with repentance and forgiveness... I would argue true repentance and forgiveness makes one pure and "sin-free" walking in the newness of life. No longer about me but ALL about HIM.
3. "Quitting" does not mean you will never sin nor does he say that. It may be that Mr Ballestero is simply using catchy terms like "Quit Sinning For Dummies" to draw folks to the heart of the matter which is a relationship with Christ... "Repent. Ask the Lord Jesus to forgive you!"
__________________ "It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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